ECU Tuning Group | Jaguar XKR ECU Upgrade
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ECU Tuning Group package
I just got the ECU Tuning Group package on my 2011 XKR S/C. I met with Jags in Beverly Hills and he and his team made it happen a couple short hours, pulley and program.
I was getting 18 mpg prior to the flash, now I get 24 and sometimes 25 mpg when driving under 80 mph. I have no speed restrictions now, and the car jumps from 90 mph to well over 150 in less than a minute. I haven’t had the ***** to peg the needle but it is coming.
As ECUTG mentions, there is smoother shifting, and greater acceleration. I haven’t had it dyno’ed and don’t really care what the numbers say. The price paid was nothing compared to what the upgrade has done for performance. Next stop is Vivid Racing for the Quicksilver exhaust, and spot to chase a Ferrari.
I was getting 18 mpg prior to the flash, now I get 24 and sometimes 25 mpg when driving under 80 mph. I have no speed restrictions now, and the car jumps from 90 mph to well over 150 in less than a minute. I haven’t had the ***** to peg the needle but it is coming.
As ECUTG mentions, there is smoother shifting, and greater acceleration. I haven’t had it dyno’ed and don’t really care what the numbers say. The price paid was nothing compared to what the upgrade has done for performance. Next stop is Vivid Racing for the Quicksilver exhaust, and spot to chase a Ferrari.
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ECU/Pulley upgrade cost justification
The ECU/pulley upgrade is offered at $2000. To me $2000 is a lot to pay for a simple upgrade. What is the actual cost of the ECU flash, pulley wheel, belt, and an hour or two of consultation? Although I'd like to have it done I don't like throwing money away. If the price were more reasonable, with respect for the cost of service and parts, I think a lot more people would jump on this.
How long does it take to flash the ECU? Say, about 1 hour which is on a DIY basis so the cost is zero except for the R/D of the flash codes. What is the cost of the pulley? About $150. Price for 1 hour of consultation $100. Everything else is on a DIY basis. I can't justify paying $2,000 for this service. Yes, the gains and benefits seem to be real but the price should be primarily determined my the service costs with a margin for profit. An aspirin may save someone's life so do you charge $1,000,000 for it or 10 cents. If you need new brake pads what is the price? What the pads are worth to you (being able to drive your car) or the market price. Someone is looking to make a lot of cash. If they do 100 upgrades that's $200,000 with very little expense. If more players offer the ECU upgrade service the price will surely go way down to a more market justified price.
I have a G37 convertible which I was thinking about upgrading with a supercharger from GTM. The entire supercharger motor, coolers, hose, fittings, fuel pump, brackets, pulleys, belts, ECU flash, oil, etc. for a complete install is only $7,000. The XKR already has a supercharger. All that is being done is adding a pulley and flashing the ECU. For $2,000! Am I missing something? At $2,000 I'm out. At $1,500 I'm out. At $800 I would consider it.
How long does it take to flash the ECU? Say, about 1 hour which is on a DIY basis so the cost is zero except for the R/D of the flash codes. What is the cost of the pulley? About $150. Price for 1 hour of consultation $100. Everything else is on a DIY basis. I can't justify paying $2,000 for this service. Yes, the gains and benefits seem to be real but the price should be primarily determined my the service costs with a margin for profit. An aspirin may save someone's life so do you charge $1,000,000 for it or 10 cents. If you need new brake pads what is the price? What the pads are worth to you (being able to drive your car) or the market price. Someone is looking to make a lot of cash. If they do 100 upgrades that's $200,000 with very little expense. If more players offer the ECU upgrade service the price will surely go way down to a more market justified price.
I have a G37 convertible which I was thinking about upgrading with a supercharger from GTM. The entire supercharger motor, coolers, hose, fittings, fuel pump, brackets, pulleys, belts, ECU flash, oil, etc. for a complete install is only $7,000. The XKR already has a supercharger. All that is being done is adding a pulley and flashing the ECU. For $2,000! Am I missing something? At $2,000 I'm out. At $1,500 I'm out. At $800 I would consider it.
Last edited by DGL; 12-30-2012 at 11:34 PM.
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You are never going to get your money back on mods when you sell your car. If that is important to you, don't spend a penny more. However, for $6k (ecu,exhaust, diverted valves) I was able to improve my Porsche from 420 to 500 hp without compromising reliability- i would take that deal any day of the week. However, with my Xkr-s, it already sounds amazing and the power is limited by traction, so I'm going to leave it stock.
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You are never going to get your money back on mods when you sell your car. If that is important to you, don't spend a penny more. However, for $6k (ecu,exhaust, diverted valves) I was able to improve my Porsche from 420 to 500 hp without compromising reliability- i would take that deal any day of the week. However, with my Xkr-s, it already sounds amazing and the power is limited by traction, so I'm going to leave it stock.
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I had APR remap my Audi for $600, and it included 3 different fuel settings (boost and fuel curves mapped according to octane), a reduced power "valet" mode, fault code clearing and security lock, all controllable from the stocks on the steering wheel.
Yes Audi is a more common car and the development costs can be spread much further, but if someone was to charge 2 grand for a Jag, I would hope for similar capabilities. So far it sounds like you just get one fuel mapping, and nothing else for the money.
Obviously we XK owners have nothing to gain from a remapping, but if I could wish for one thing that I think many 2007 -2009 owners would buy into, would be to eliminate the "Automatic up-shift" we are stuck with on our transmissions, as well as removing the 155mph limiter.
Food for thought?
Vince
Yes Audi is a more common car and the development costs can be spread much further, but if someone was to charge 2 grand for a Jag, I would hope for similar capabilities. So far it sounds like you just get one fuel mapping, and nothing else for the money.
Obviously we XK owners have nothing to gain from a remapping, but if I could wish for one thing that I think many 2007 -2009 owners would buy into, would be to eliminate the "Automatic up-shift" we are stuck with on our transmissions, as well as removing the 155mph limiter.
Food for thought?
Vince