XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

Got Jaguar a working dealers SDD JLR what can I do with it?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-14-2017, 05:01 PM
AlexJag's Avatar
Sponsor
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,245
Received 418 Likes on 249 Posts
Default Got a working dealers SDD JLR Mongoose Pro what can I do with it?

So I got SDD JLR v145 installed and ready to go , Using a clone Mongoose pro as the interface.
Everything is working great! Runs fast! installed on a dedicated laptop with Solid state drive, 4gb mem, Dual core CPU, Win 7 Ultimate.
So far Im able to read the codes but am afraid to touch any of the programming stuff.
What else can I do with this as far as programming goes? Any tips, tricks, cool things that can be modified?
Lets share the knowledge and learn together. Feedback is greatly appreciated!
 
__________________
2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph

Last edited by AlexJag; 06-14-2017 at 05:07 PM.
  #2  
Old 06-14-2017, 05:08 PM
Queen and Country's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Hastings
Posts: 7,420
Received 2,380 Likes on 1,607 Posts
Default

Rent it to your fellow Jaguar lovers in need and pay for your next car.
 
  #3  
Old 06-14-2017, 06:37 PM
tarhealcracker's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Eustis FL
Posts: 1,922
Received 256 Likes on 218 Posts
Default

One knows he's a dinosaur when one can't even decipher the title!
 
  #4  
Old 06-15-2017, 01:15 AM
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 26,645
Received 4,483 Likes on 3,901 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
Using a clone Mongoose pro as the interface.

...

What else can I do with this as far as programming goes?
It's a clone, therefore very risky. I'd use it to read data but not for reflashing etc.
 
The following users liked this post:
Sean W (06-15-2017)
  #5  
Old 06-15-2017, 02:54 AM
GGG's Avatar
GGG
GGG is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Durham, UK
Posts: 120,446
Received 16,798 Likes on 12,167 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
..... What else can I do with this as far as programming goes? .....
You could 'brick' your car.

More than one report on the forums of disasters when programming with Mongoose clones.

Graham
 
The following 2 users liked this post by GGG:
barnsie (10-26-2019), Sean W (06-15-2017)
  #6  
Old 06-15-2017, 04:19 AM
SeanU's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 259
Received 102 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

Don't attempt to do any module updates without having the car on a real power supply. I think you need something that can provide at least 22 amps. A normal battery tender can't handle the required load. I have used a setup like yours for diagnostics though, and it has been great for that.
 
  #7  
Old 06-15-2017, 01:16 PM
Sean W's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 8,333
Received 4,166 Likes on 2,335 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
So I got SDD JLR v145 installed and ready to go , Using a clone Mongoose pro as the interface.
Everything is working great! Runs fast! installed on a dedicated laptop with Solid state drive, 4gb mem, Dual core CPU, Win 7 Ultimate.
So far Im able to read the codes but am afraid to touch any of the programming stuff.
What else can I do with this as far as programming goes? Any tips, tricks, cool things that can be modified?
Lets share the knowledge and learn together. Feedback is greatly appreciated!
See post 4 and 5 and heed them but if you persist, see post 6.

Is there something you have in mind? Something that doesn't seem quite right to you?

I have the real deal. It's old tech (not ancient) and takes a bit to get used to. Speed of the software doesn't equal quality and there isn't enough information in any manual I've seen that steers you. I'm not prone to playing with it but even as I was trying to learn it, I've inadvertently nearly bricked modules by selecting something I thought meant one thing but, turns out it meant another. I'm not new to automotive software either but was to SDD.

If it hadn't been for Cambo's help, I might have been in for some major expenses.
 

Last edited by Sean W; 06-15-2017 at 01:24 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Datsports (06-17-2017)
  #8  
Old 06-17-2017, 04:01 PM
AlexJag's Avatar
Sponsor
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,245
Received 418 Likes on 249 Posts
Default

I got a power supply and looks like software will not let you program anything if voltage is bellow 12.5.
I was just looking to see if there are any customization options. Looks like adding a a sound auxiliary input is an options and lightning options, such as daytime lights and so on, also map update can be done.
 
__________________
2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
  #9  
Old 06-17-2017, 08:00 PM
jahummer's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,086
Received 2,252 Likes on 1,414 Posts
Default

The first thing I highly advise you to do is pitch your clone into the nearest waste receptical and purchase this for a small investment, less than two hundred quid.

https://www.diagnostic-associates.co...thru-interface

Not worth the risk of destroying your electrics.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by jahummer:
NTL1991 (05-05-2021), Sean W (06-18-2017)
  #10  
Old 06-18-2017, 11:58 AM
Sean W's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 8,333
Received 4,166 Likes on 2,335 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
I got a power supply and looks like software will not let you program anything if voltage is bellow 12.5.
I was just looking to see if there are any customization options. Looks like adding a a sound auxiliary input is an options and lightning options, such as daytime lights and so on, also map update can be done.
THat's a hard "No" on the map updates. Those are DVD's and 2012 is the last one made as I understand. Buy one on eBay.

The other things you are describing are options that may or may not have been made available for you're vehicle. Check your options in Topix. You can turn on AUX input when selecting module updates (I think that's what it's called) if you want to buy and add the ACM module.

Other thing you mention is sound system. You select the sound system that was an option for your car in the CCF (car configuration file). You of course need to install the B&W premium sound for it to work if you just have the standard sound system.

You'll also have options for many other cars makes and models that aren't applicable to you (Land Rovers etc.) The SDD doesn't tell you which feature applies to which vehicle, but the ones that aren't for your car will likely be grayed out. You have to pay additional $ to have access to all vehicle types and all functions, even for your car. Base software won't give you that. and Jaguar doesn't want their techs changing certain options.

The Primary CCF is stored in the Auxiliary Junction Box. Two copies are stored in other places as back ups. Once you download the CCF to the software, you should see all three files plus the as built file. You can then see any changes that were made since the vehicle was built.

Then there are the Jaguar software updates/ module updates. These may be because of a TSB. My take on those is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Example, I have a central junction box update available. I have no DTC's and no issues related the the CJB so I'm not going to update it. I can't find the related TSB so I stay away.

There are more things that can go wrong than right when you're playing around so if you find something, I would suggest you come back to the forum and ask before you click any check boxes. Chances are, someone here will be familiar. Include snapshots.
 
The following users liked this post:
MarkyUK (12-01-2019)
  #11  
Old 06-18-2017, 12:39 PM
jackra_1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 6,264
Received 1,755 Likes on 1,326 Posts
Default

I have an earlier version of JLR SDD and a cable I bought on sale at Drew Technologies where they claimed it was a genuine Mongoose Pro.

I have reprogrammed the ride height successfully with this set up and run diagnostics with no problem. I do use a battery support system that is recommended in this forum.

I tried changing the brake "pressure/feel" and that failed but did not change anything.

I would not reprogram/update anything if it is not broken because of warnings
in this forum.

My key fob does not open/close all windows or sunroof and I will program that capability when I figure out how.
 
The following users liked this post:
Sean W (06-18-2017)
  #12  
Old 06-19-2017, 05:45 AM
SeanU's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 259
Received 102 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

There are a few settings like auto mirror fold, double locking and maybe daytime running lights that you can turn on and off. Nothing else super interesting.
 
  #13  
Old 06-21-2017, 08:01 AM
8bit's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Scotland
Posts: 618
Received 194 Likes on 123 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jahummer
The first thing I highly advise you to do is pitch your clone into the nearest waste receptical and purchase this for a small investment, less than two hundred quid.

https://www.diagnostic-associates.co...thru-interface

Not worth the risk of destroying your electrics.
What he said. I rendered my own car inoperable for a while attempting to reprogram something using a clone Mongoose cable, ended up with corrupted data in some modules and couldn't start the electrics or the engine. I bought exactly the same unit in the link above, works perfectly.

The clone cables are OK for reading/clearing codes, *might* be OK for some things like seat/window recalibration routines but I wouldn't risk it for those or anything like programming. Do yourself a favour, get an approved interface.
 
  #14  
Old 06-21-2017, 08:43 AM
franksm's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 185
Received 34 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Thought it was just me :-/

I got the BritishDiagnostics pre-configured Virtual Machine + Mongoose cable, it runs fine but caused my 2007 XK to fault every single module. Some cleared after using the TorquePro App, others were more persistent but I was able to clear them with an Autoenginuity tool I had (albeit out-of-date).

Tried it on my 2007 Range Rover, same thing. Bought another Mongoose cable. Same thing.

Still not sure if it's a cable issue or something with the software but I don't feel safe using SDD in this way.
 
  #15  
Old 06-21-2017, 12:05 PM
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 26,645
Received 4,483 Likes on 3,901 Posts
Default

The VM is not going to help and indeed may be one cause.
 
  #16  
Old 06-27-2017, 06:09 PM
AlexJag's Avatar
Sponsor
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,245
Received 418 Likes on 249 Posts
Default

So no one is using clones for programming here ?
I guess at least I can read all the codes .. Can I do live monitoring does anyone know?
 
__________________
2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
  #17  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:17 PM
u102768's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,941
Received 1,484 Likes on 907 Posts
Default

I used my Mangoose to update a number of modules on my XKR to the latest available firmware version shortly after I got it.

The only issue I have had was more recently when I was applying my tune because my wife and daughter decided they needed ice cream while I was in the middle of flashing the PCM.

I gingerly moved the 4 way adapter that my laptop was plugged in to out of the way of the freezer door but the plug momentarily lost power. The power glitch caused SDD to immediately abort the download with an 'unspecified error writing block 115'. Luckily it offered to try again!
 
The following users liked this post:
AlexJag (06-27-2017)
  #18  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:37 PM
AlexJag's Avatar
Sponsor
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,245
Received 418 Likes on 249 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by u102768
I used my Mangoose to update a number of modules on my XKR to the latest available firmware version shortly after I got it.

The only issue I have had was more recently when I was applying my tune because my wife and daughter decided they needed ice cream while I was in the middle of flashing the PCM.

I gingerly moved the 4 way adapter that my laptop was plugged in to out of the way of the freezer door but the plug momentarily lost power. The power glitch caused SDD to immediately abort the download with an 'unspecified error writing block 115'. Luckily it offered to try again!
Are you using a clone like me?
 
__________________
2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
  #19  
Old 06-27-2017, 08:22 PM
trkyam's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 549
Received 177 Likes on 101 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
Are you using a clone like me?
I also want to know if I can update modules using cloned software..
 
  #20  
Old 06-28-2017, 12:56 AM
u102768's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,941
Received 1,484 Likes on 907 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlexJag
Are you using a clone like me?
Yup, it is a non Pro model.

I have had it around 5 years now so used it on my old X350 as well and seem to have had more success with it than some others have so they probably vary in quality. Having a decent power supply is critical as well.
 


Quick Reply: Got Jaguar a working dealers SDD JLR what can I do with it?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:42 AM.