How can anybody afford an XKR out of warranty?
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How can anybody afford an XKR out of warranty?
After my CPO warranty expired on my 2010 XKR, I purchased an aftermarket warranty from the Jag dealer that has already paid out $25K worth of work (warranty cost $3700). How can anyone afford these cars out of warranty? My car has 67k miles. Just a few of the items that have been replaced:
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
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I have had my 10-yr old XK for a year, and put 30,000 miles on it. So far I have replaced the battery, brake pads, glued back window, repaired glove box dropping problem, replaced a side marker light, changed the oil. Also was rear-ended so that was repaired under (their) insurance.
All-in I have spent maybe $400 out of pocket? I'd say that is pretty good. However, I will never darken the door of a dealership if I can possibly avoid it, and will attempt many, if not most, repairs myself. So far, though, I haven't really needed any..
All-in I have spent maybe $400 out of pocket? I'd say that is pretty good. However, I will never darken the door of a dealership if I can possibly avoid it, and will attempt many, if not most, repairs myself. So far, though, I haven't really needed any..
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Dang, Khan, something is seriously wrong with your car. My 2010 went 66,000 miles in 8 years with absolutely ZERO problems. Course, then I had one Fuel Injector go bad so that had to be replaced. One fuel injector in the 5 years I've owned it isn't bad at all. I had a warranty for three of those years and had zero reason to use any of it.
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After my CPO warranty expired on my 2010 XKR, I purchased an aftermarket warranty from the Jag dealer that has already paid out $25K worth of work (warranty cost $3700). How can anyone afford these cars out of warranty? My car has 67k miles. Just a few of the items that have been replaced:
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
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MarkyUK (11-09-2018)
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Controlled luck.
I am fortunate to live on my own single track road, followed by a not often used section of road.
I can keep my RPM down until everything is warmed up.
Perhaps little things like this can make a difference between a car in the city.
Then there is temperature spread, UV exposure, etc...
There do seem to be more things in need of attention on 5.0L XKR's compared to the other X150's, but as Q&C mentioned, perhaps the price of high performance on demand.
I am fortunate to live on my own single track road, followed by a not often used section of road.
I can keep my RPM down until everything is warmed up.
Perhaps little things like this can make a difference between a car in the city.
Then there is temperature spread, UV exposure, etc...
There do seem to be more things in need of attention on 5.0L XKR's compared to the other X150's, but as Q&C mentioned, perhaps the price of high performance on demand.
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I bought my one owner 2012 in 2014 with 6,666 miles on it. So far I have had 4 dealer oil changes and a 4 wheel alignment. Also put 4 new tires on it. During the CPO inspection they replaced the alternator and the glove box. I just hit 23K. We'll see what the future has in store and I'll most likely have it dealer serviced until I check out.
#9
Exactly.
Nature only allows 3 kinds of people to own exotic cars and you are one of them
1. Those you know how to buy a car. (most here know to buy a XK that has had those things done under factory warranty)
2. Those who can work on them ( for them this list would be simple wear and tear)
3. Those who can get work done without getting fleeced.
Average guy is not meant to own any other than a Camry- it would be unfair to the rest of us.
( I read this in Atlas Shrugged)
Nature only allows 3 kinds of people to own exotic cars and you are one of them
1. Those you know how to buy a car. (most here know to buy a XK that has had those things done under factory warranty)
2. Those who can work on them ( for them this list would be simple wear and tear)
3. Those who can get work done without getting fleeced.
Average guy is not meant to own any other than a Camry- it would be unfair to the rest of us.
( I read this in Atlas Shrugged)
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After my CPO warranty expired on my 2010 XKR, I purchased an aftermarket warranty from the Jag dealer that has already paid out $25K worth of work (warranty cost $3700). How can anyone afford these cars out of warranty? My car has 67k miles. Just a few of the items that have been replaced:
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
Drivers side headlight assembly TWICE
Passenger side headlight assembly
TPMS
Driver Side seat track
Front Control Arms
Rear Stabilizer bars
Water Pump
Air Conditioner
Alternator
Supercharger part (cant remember the name of the part in the supercharger)
Motor Mounts
The car has been well maintained. I don't understand how it can have so many issues. Would not recommend this car out of warranty.
TPMS? Tire sensors, whole system? This can be so many things. The batteries die in the tiny little valve stem sensors. That's just as much age as anything and have nothing to do with make/model.
Seat track could be poor quality, could be a larger individual owned it, could be a lot of stuff. That is uncommon with your age and mileage.
Front control arms at that mileage is not unheard of. They won't just replace a ball joint or a bushing, so if one was messed up from say, Michigan or similarly poor roads, they'll do the whole arm as an assembly.
Rear stabilizer bars? I'm guessing you mean end links or bushings, the bar is generally a life of the vehicle part. Those can have the same fault from road condition related wear.
Water pump is a known issue on 5.0 cars.
Air conditioner could be a compressor (uncommon at mileage), condenser got a hole (rocks happen and really not mileage dependent), receiver dryer, etc. Curious what actually failed.
Alternator, that's annoying at that mileage. Uncommon unless a crap battery. A car sitting a lot can have the weakened battery between uses (assuming no float charger aka battery tender is used) have the alternator die prematurely from working so hard to try to make back up for a crap or discharged battery.
Supercharger? Curious what part, at that mileage, wear parts like bearings are uncommon, but it could be a crap coupler? Not common.
Motor mounts is a disappointment at that age and mileage.
The way it's doable is pay for a warranty and hope stuff is covered, pay for repairs, or DIY. Assuming the headlights weren't physically cracked or damaged in an unrepairable way. It's well under a tenth of your number if you DIY like I do.
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Ranchero is the expert on this.
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Ranchero50 (11-10-2018)
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I was asked just today if I plan on keeping my XKR once the CPO designation has expired. My response, the car has been absolutely bulletproof except for a coolant pipe, since the engine exchange at 20K. We're at 29K now, and yes, I would feel a whole lot better if I were at 42K, as 20K seemed to be the magic number, but my assumption is I will head into the unknown, unprotected and vulnerable. It's so worth the risk.
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Maybe I'm lucky, although I don't drive much. I purchased my car with 4,800 miles with 3 months left on factory warranty. I had all the rotors replaced and the trunk rubber seal under warranty. I purchased an extended warranty for $3600 right before the factory warranty expired. My car currently has 10,200 miles. I have not used the warranty even once.
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Mine was one of the more abused cars on the road and it's cost less than $1k to get it on the road. Being willing to shop around for parts and do the work yourself is the answer, or at least be knowledgeable enough to figure out what's wrong before letting someone else do the work. Dealer you are paying @ 2x the cost for parts, labor about 50% more. Add in England's overly nanny state MOT inspection and you are changing stuff that really doesn't need it. Bushings cracked in the control arms just means they need checked more frequently, about every tire change (less often than the MOT) but the MOT requires them to be changed for a crappy seal design. You Euro folks should have went after Jag for poor design and quality issues with those seals.
#17
I have taken very good care of my 2010 XK and at 91K miles an internal bearing went and now the engine needs to be replaced or rebuilt. Done with Jag's!!
I owe $8K on the dam thing. Estimates of $15k to fix it. No way. Its not worth it. The local auto salvage yards wont give me near what I need. What do I do with this thing? Junk it and take the hit? This is a beautiful car. it got to be worth at least $10k w/o the engine working.?
I owe $8K on the dam thing. Estimates of $15k to fix it. No way. Its not worth it. The local auto salvage yards wont give me near what I need. What do I do with this thing? Junk it and take the hit? This is a beautiful car. it got to be worth at least $10k w/o the engine working.?
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I buy a lot of broken cars. A 90k mile XK 5.0 base that runs and drives well isn't even worth twenty. If I bought it, I'd want enough cushion to buy another engine, transmission and other items. Then it has to be discounted enough to be worth my effort even including that worst case.
You may say certain things work, but if I can't test and confirm, I assume they are broken in my estimates of what a car will take. By needs new bearings, do you mean that it has a rod knock or did it spin a main bearing? If it's a rod knock and I can test A/C, accessories on the belt drive, that it engages forward and reverse, etc; I am willing to pay more than a main beabear where I'm taking your word for it.
10k seems like it might either be the top price or too much if its spun a main bearing. It's slightly more realistic if it's a rod bearing.
You may say certain things work, but if I can't test and confirm, I assume they are broken in my estimates of what a car will take. By needs new bearings, do you mean that it has a rod knock or did it spin a main bearing? If it's a rod knock and I can test A/C, accessories on the belt drive, that it engages forward and reverse, etc; I am willing to pay more than a main beabear where I'm taking your word for it.
10k seems like it might either be the top price or too much if its spun a main bearing. It's slightly more realistic if it's a rod bearing.
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I've own an XK or XKR since 2011 and maintenance and repairs have been on par with every other car I've ever owned. IIRC I replaced a blown vacuum hose and had the thermostat housing fail on the 08 along with oil changes and other normal stuff I think I spent less than $2K on my 08. I've maybe spent $2K on my '11 xkr so far on water pump, washer fluid issue, and other minor stuff. 4K over 7 years seems beyond reasonable for me considering is almost super car status.
My daughter's 2011 328i has cost me WAY more but its still a good car. Just lots of little things.
My MB 2010 GL450 had 4 O2 sensors fail and a variety of little bugs but all under warranty. Nothing big. My 2015 MB GL550 has been perfect so far and has a 6y unlimited mileage cpo warranty.
I've owned several Dodge vehicles that seemed to have a lot more problems. A neon, a lebaron, a durango, and a 1500 truck. 3 had transmission problems. blew the engine on one. Had part of the frame crack on the durango!! but fortunately all was under warranty or extended warranty or at the end of their life mile wise.
The shittiest car I've owned was a salvaged subaru legacy but that was because it was rebuilt poorly. probably spent $5K on it to keep it drivable for 5 years.
My daughter's 2011 328i has cost me WAY more but its still a good car. Just lots of little things.
My MB 2010 GL450 had 4 O2 sensors fail and a variety of little bugs but all under warranty. Nothing big. My 2015 MB GL550 has been perfect so far and has a 6y unlimited mileage cpo warranty.
I've owned several Dodge vehicles that seemed to have a lot more problems. A neon, a lebaron, a durango, and a 1500 truck. 3 had transmission problems. blew the engine on one. Had part of the frame crack on the durango!! but fortunately all was under warranty or extended warranty or at the end of their life mile wise.
The shittiest car I've owned was a salvaged subaru legacy but that was because it was rebuilt poorly. probably spent $5K on it to keep it drivable for 5 years.
#20
My F-type, if I paid for all warranty work myself, would cost me north of $20K/year. This is shocking number, however I am not concerned. I will get it CPO-ed once warranty runs out, then I will line up all fixes to be covered before it ends. At this point I am almost at the end of shake-down and the car should stabilize. I do not intend to work on it myself but it is always an option if my finances take a hit. I do have an knowledgeable Jaguar indy lined up to do the work out of warranty. Meanwhile, I am absolutely religious on maintenance, if something is going to fail, it won't be because I didn't change the fluids on time.