Hub spacing for wheel fitment and spacer sizing across all model years
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Hub spacing for wheel fitment and spacer sizing across all model years
I've read that there are 3 sizes of rear hubs... trying to find the correct numbers for my 2012xkr, but getting this information consolidated in one place would be massively helpful for future forum members. I know if this thread had existed 2 months ago, sizing wheels would have been much easier.
I'm hoping we can end up filling out the following information:
2007-2009
Maximum wheel size: 19x??et?? (Front) 19x??et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: ??mm (front) and ??mm (rear)
2010-2011
Maximum wheel size: 19x??et?? (Front) 19x??et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: 20mm (front) and 15mm (rear)
2012-2015
Maximum wheel size: 19x9.5et?? (Front) 19x11et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: ??mm (front) and ??mm (rear)
Some questions...
Are there indeed 3 separate hub distances across all model years?
Looking all over the net, there's a variety of wheel sizes and offsets listed for 2012+ and other years. I suspect this is due to assumptions that one year fits other years, bad data, lack of actual measurements, etc.
I think that the stock tamana wheels I have on my 2012 are 19x9.5 et51 rear and 19x8.5 et49 front (though some sources say the front is also et51).
I'm hoping we can end up filling out the following information:
2007-2009
Maximum wheel size: 19x??et?? (Front) 19x??et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: ??mm (front) and ??mm (rear)
2010-2011
Maximum wheel size: 19x??et?? (Front) 19x??et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: 20mm (front) and 15mm (rear)
2012-2015
Maximum wheel size: 19x9.5et?? (Front) 19x11et?? (Rear)
Recommended spacer size for stock wheels: ??mm (front) and ??mm (rear)
Some questions...
Are there indeed 3 separate hub distances across all model years?
Looking all over the net, there's a variety of wheel sizes and offsets listed for 2012+ and other years. I suspect this is due to assumptions that one year fits other years, bad data, lack of actual measurements, etc.
I think that the stock tamana wheels I have on my 2012 are 19x9.5 et51 rear and 19x8.5 et49 front (though some sources say the front is also et51).
Last edited by TraxtarXKR; 09-03-2021 at 05:16 PM.
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barnsie (09-04-2021)
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@MaximA put HRE P101 in gloss Charcoal that he ordered directly from the factory onto his 2013 xkr. 20x9.5 ET45 front and 20x11 ET40 rears. However, his rear 305 tires rubbed, so he had to downsize to 295s.
I think if he had tucked his rear wheels in 5-10mm, those wider tires would have fit perfectly... So, I suspect a 20x11 et45-50 is a better choice and also reduces scrub radius.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e3/#post873893
I think if he had tucked his rear wheels in 5-10mm, those wider tires would have fit perfectly... So, I suspect a 20x11 et45-50 is a better choice and also reduces scrub radius.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e3/#post873893
Last edited by TraxtarXKR; 09-03-2021 at 03:41 PM.
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@MaximA put HRE P101 in gloss Charcoal that he ordered directly from the factory onto his 2013 xkr. 20x9.5 ET45 front and 20x11 ET40 rears. However, his rear 305 tires rubbed, so he had to downsize to 295s.
I think if he had tucked his rear wheels in 5-10mm, those wider tires would have fit perfectly... So, I suspect a 20x11 et45-50 is a better choice and also reduces scrub radius.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e3/#post873893
I think if he had tucked his rear wheels in 5-10mm, those wider tires would have fit perfectly... So, I suspect a 20x11 et45-50 is a better choice and also reduces scrub radius.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e3/#post873893
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guy (10-26-2021)
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Yeah I'm just not sure what to change it to... I don't know how different 2010-11 and 2012+ rear hubs are, and if they're different at all.
Ideally, this thread will result in all the question marks on the specs in first post getting filled in... So it helps anyone with wheel questions going forward.
I'd love to see this get turned into a reference guide that gets stickied. Even better if people post pictures of their custom wheel setup; listing X150 model & year, specs on the pictured wheels, and any suspension changes if any.
Ideally, this thread will result in all the question marks on the specs in first post getting filled in... So it helps anyone with wheel questions going forward.
I'd love to see this get turned into a reference guide that gets stickied. Even better if people post pictures of their custom wheel setup; listing X150 model & year, specs on the pictured wheels, and any suspension changes if any.
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barnsie (09-04-2021)
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I think a thread dedicated to this topic would be very useful, with a list of all models etc as the OP proposed. I have thought about adding spacers to my 2008 XKR (on Senta rims) but have read so many conflicting accounts of what I need, front and back, that I gave up in the end. Like many other owners, I feel that the car would look better of the rims just filled out the arches a little more.
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TraxtarXKR (09-04-2021)
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These are the factory wheel dimensions for 4.2 & 5.0
X150 4.2 standard
20x8.5 ET49
20x9.5 ET26
X150 4.2 Vortex
20x9 ET49
20x10.5 ET31
X150 5.0 Standard
20x8.5 ET49
20x9.5 ET46
X150 5.0 Vortex
20x9 ET49
20x10.5 ET52
I won't get into recommended spacers (never had them on any of my cars).
But I will say, that in my opinion, the fitment of the Vortex wheels on the rear is just about perfect. Aesthetically I feel the fronts could be pushed out a little, but not much.
X150 4.2 standard
20x8.5 ET49
20x9.5 ET26
X150 4.2 Vortex
20x9 ET49
20x10.5 ET31
X150 5.0 Standard
20x8.5 ET49
20x9.5 ET46
X150 5.0 Vortex
20x9 ET49
20x10.5 ET52
I won't get into recommended spacers (never had them on any of my cars).
But I will say, that in my opinion, the fitment of the Vortex wheels on the rear is just about perfect. Aesthetically I feel the fronts could be pushed out a little, but not much.
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I think a thread dedicated to this topic would be very useful, with a list of all models etc as the OP proposed. I have thought about adding spacers to my 2008 XKR (on Senta rims) but have read so many conflicting accounts of what I need, front and back, that I gave up in the end. Like many other owners, I feel that the car would look better of the rims just filled out the arches a little more.
20mm front 15mm rear on the 4.2 with Senta wheels has been mentioned several times, including me and works/looks great!:-) Only physical action I had to take was cutting off the non threaded part of the studs with a grinder on the rear hubs.
It transforms the look of the car!
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bfarrell (09-10-2021)
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Conflicting?
20mm front 15mm rear on the 4.2 with Senta wheels has been mentioned several times, including me and works/looks great!:-) Only physical action I had to take was cutting off the non threaded part of the studs with a grinder on the rear hubs.
It transforms the look of the car!
20mm front 15mm rear on the 4.2 with Senta wheels has been mentioned several times, including me and works/looks great!:-) Only physical action I had to take was cutting off the non threaded part of the studs with a grinder on the rear hubs.
It transforms the look of the car!
Since I too have Senta wheels, could you tell me what I need to order for my car, or point me to someplace that has the info? Many, many thanks.
Last edited by barnsie; 09-06-2021 at 01:27 PM.
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center bore, CB, is how much of the wheel is machined out, so that the wheel rides on the hub correctly. i have hub centric rings for my aftermarket wheels to match the wheel bore to the hub diameter. stock wheels typically ride perfectly without a spacer. these come in aluminum or hard plastic, both are fine. they are measured to a tenth of a millimeter.
pitch circle diameter, PCD, is the diameter of the centerline through your bolt pattern, basically. i think all of our cars are 5x108. five bolts, 108mm diameter circle through their centers.
after you get the right bolt pattern, a big enough center bore, and enough backspacing to suit the suspension geometry, you can still theoretically end up with wheel interference with the caliper. once you add your spacers, though, you're not likely to have that problem.
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barnsie (09-07-2021)
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here is your car, probably: https://www.wheel-size.com/size/jaguar/xk/2008/
Center Bore: 63.4 mm
PCD: 5x108 (5x4.25)
Center Bore: 63.4 mm
PCD: 5x108 (5x4.25)
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I like the way the car looks! OK, so I am slowly getting there - I need 20mm on the front and 15mm on the rear. When I look at the websites selling spacers, there is a ton of stuff about offsets and so on that I don't really understand. For example, they are asking me for 'centre bore' and 'PCD', which means nothing to me.
Since I too have Senta wheels, could you tell me what I need to order for my car, or point me to someplace that has the info? Many, many thanks.
Since I too have Senta wheels, could you tell me what I need to order for my car, or point me to someplace that has the info? Many, many thanks.
Putting spacers changes the scrub radius as we as the inclination of the king pin. Another words your are changing the geometry of the suspension from stock. If you want to bring it back to stock then the camber angles needs to change and possibly even castor. I would go to a proper suspension specialist and see what they say.
Last edited by XKRAU; 09-07-2021 at 12:31 AM.
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If you like the look then go for spacers, if you like spirited driving then don't do it.
Putting spacers changes the scrub radius as we as the inclination of the king pin. Another words your are changing the geometry of the suspension from stock. If you want to bring it back to stock then the camber angles needs to change and possibly even castor. I would go to a proper suspension specialist and see what they say.
Putting spacers changes the scrub radius as we as the inclination of the king pin. Another words your are changing the geometry of the suspension from stock. If you want to bring it back to stock then the camber angles needs to change and possibly even castor. I would go to a proper suspension specialist and see what they say.
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BlkC4t_XK14 (09-08-2021)
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here is your car, probably: https://www.wheel-size.com/size/jaguar/xk/2008/
Center Bore: 63.4 mm
PCD: 5x108 (5x4.25)
Center Bore: 63.4 mm
PCD: 5x108 (5x4.25)
Had mine for 2 years now and no ill effects what so ever and you can do spirited driving, mine hasn't broken off yet!:-)
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barnsie (09-07-2021)
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Jaguar spent several millions of dollars on suspension development and you want to throw on a couple of bucks worth of wheel spacers. If you like to drive your car with compromise handling that's your choice it doesn't bother me at all, hey its your money your car the customer is always right.
Last edited by XKRAU; 09-07-2021 at 01:02 AM.
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Jaguar spent several millions of dollars on suspension development and you want to throw on a couple of bucks worth of wheel spacers. If you like to drive your car with compromise handling that's your choice it doesn't bother me at all, hey its your money your car the customer is always right.
I've even lowered my car and with the spacers it should be super dangerous to drive but it drives just as good/nice as OEM but it looks soooo muuuuch better!:-)
My tires all wear even and have yet to hear anybody having a problem with spacers or lowering springs.
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