Let's talk about catch cans
Anyone have one (or two) oil catch cans installed? The 5.0 guys like myself could benefit from having them. Im currently working on my own, but I'd love to see some pictures of anyone else who has them.
I'll also post up my progress along the way. Looks to be a fairly straightforward project and in my opinion very worthwhile to have.. I will also be doing this to my f150 ecoboost. |
I've had them on other vehicles, but haven't put one on the Jag (yet). Now you may have gotten me motivated....
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I was always under the impression that the factory pcv and oil separators were enough, until I had the great pleasure of ripping off my blower and seeing inside the intake ports and manifolds.
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A few guys on the X350 forum have put them on but of course those are the 4.2 liter.....
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...lastic-205829/ |
It is proving difficult for me to pick a proper catch can...what I want doesn't seem to exist
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Fill in the specs you want, if it's made it will be there:
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Thanks, but no luck there either. I'd like a square/rectangular tank with mounting tabs, a good baffle design, 19mm inlet and outlet, and a cap on top. I may just end up having to settle for something else or try to find the time to build one.
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I'm wondering just why a catch can is needed? Jaguars are quite "oil tight", meaning there is not a lot of blow-by past the rings. So, what's to catch?
I had a '12 Hyundai Genesis 5.0, which used about a qt/2000 miles. Oil vapor was routed to intake manifold, much like many cars. I removed the throttle body and extracted about a cup of oil from bottom of intake manifold. Installed a catch can, which caught and condensed the oil vapor. Contrasted with Jaguar: I have a '07XK with 42K miles and '13 with 10K miles. I have checked, over time, the interior of intake manifolds - both are "dry". |
If you plan on driving that '13, put a catch can on now. I've seen what the intake valves look like at 75k miles. Wish I would've done one when I first got the car at 50k miles...
Even a tiny bit of blow by over the course of many thousands of miles will add up on the intake valves. I think you are spot on with the Jag engines being "tighter" , which is probably why they have far less issues with carbon buildup as compared to BMW and Audi. |
Well then... Someone needs to install a catch can then drive around for a few thousand miles; drain it and let us all know the caught quantity.
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
(Post 1958322)
Well then... Someone needs to install a catch can then drive around for a few thousand miles; drain it and let us all know the caught quantity.
There are a ton out there. Why so picky :) This one has custom mounting and different inlet sizes a dip stick! |
The inlet and outlet size aren't big enough, needs to be 19mm (3/4"). I don't want to reduce size of the factory piping. I've ordered a couple (doing a dual can setup) for BMW n54, as they have true 19mm inlet and outlet, but they don't have a lid. I would rather use the vacuum extractor to suck it out during oil changes rather than having to unscrew the bottom of the canister, but they will have to work for now.
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Originally Posted by bigdhenderson
(Post 1958338)
The inlet and outlet size aren't big enough, needs to be 19mm (3/4"). I don't want to reduce size of the factory piping. I've ordered a couple (doing a dual can setup) for BMW n54, as they have true 19mm inlet and outlet, but they don't have a lid. I would rather use the vacuum extractor to suck it out during oil changes rather than having to unscrew the bottom of the canister, but they will have to work for now.
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Maybe make one? They are really very simple things.
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
(Post 1958353)
Maybe make one? They are really very simple things.
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Anyone know if the full load breather tube needs to be hooked up to the intake? Is this something that could be deleted from being tied-in to the intake tube and just ran through a breathered catch can?
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Catch cans mounted
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Covered by the corner trims when installed?
Now just to Hook 'em Up! What kind did you end up getting? Can't tell from picture. |
Yep it'll be an incognito install...ended up getting 2 off amazon, made my own mounts. No drilling required, completely reversible with no trace.
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Originally Posted by bigdhenderson
(Post 1958973)
Catch cans mounted
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ee3242a722.jpg |
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