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Aprilia2012 04-16-2018 08:00 PM

I plan on ordering that tonight. I like the look. Thanks for your due diligence. I see you are in tampa as am I. I have a 2011 XKR convertible. I would like to get together and compare rides. D

10XKR 04-17-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Aprilia2012 (Post 1878405)
I plan on ordering that tonight. I like the look. Thanks for your due diligence. I see you are in tampa as am I. I have a 2011 XKR convertible. I would like to get together and compare rides. D

You are very welcome, that would be great, I have already met a few of the Tamp/Sarasota XK guys. It would be great to get a few of us together. Let's figure it out and try to meet.

Cheers,

Dave

Aprilia2012 04-17-2018 09:03 AM

What bulbs did you use to replace the two smaller yellow ones please?
How do you connect with members in the same city. Are you allowed to leave an online number for a connect? Thanks

10XKR 04-17-2018 09:36 AM

I assume you mean the amber "marker" light in the headlight?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ce97a6a69b.jpg

That amber one is :

Amber Marker Lights in Headlight Assembly
T10 LED Bulb Extremely Bright 3030 Chipset 194 168 SMD W5W LED Wedge Light (2pcs) by WOXMA
$6.95


And the matching "clear/white" marker light seen above and to the left of the headlight projector. Note it matches color temp of factory headlight. Also used in License Plate Lights.

Front Marker Lights - License Plate Lights
T10 LED Bulb Extremely Bright 3030 Chipset 194 168 SMD W5W LED Wedge Light (6pcs white) by WOXMA
$13.99

Concerning contact, we can exchange private contact info via a PM or email , I can also send you the complete list of LED bulbs with location description and Amazon Links. Should answer all the LED light questions.

Hope that helps,

Dave

amcdonal86 04-18-2018 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Ranchero50 (Post 1876822)
I think they are proportional to the body and flow with the other lines. I think the washer nozzle shouldn't be chromed as nothing else is on the XKR except the exhaust tips. Looks better on mine with a black carbon fiber wrap. Also, you need to compare them to other cars from '05-'10, not today's standard cars which look too boxy and angular to me.

Eh not exactly. The window trim is chromed

wrair 04-18-2018 07:39 AM

Dave,
You wrote: " I can also send you the complete list of LED bulbs with location description and Amazon Links. Should answer all the LED light questions."

Would you, could you, post your info to this thread?

Thanks,
WRAIR

10XKR 04-18-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by wrair (Post 1879269)
Dave,
You wrote: " I can also send you the complete list of LED bulbs with location description and Amazon Links. Should answer all the LED light questions."

Would you, could you, post your info to this thread?

Thanks,
WRAIR

Sure, I guess it will save me sending dozens of PMs :-) My apologies for the thread hijack, but it is sort of related to the looks of the headlights.

********LED BULB UPDATE**********
Amber Marker Lights in Headlight Assembly
T10 LED Bulb Extremely Bright 3030 Chipset 194 168 SMD W5W LED Wedge Light 1.5W 12V(2pcs) by WOXMA
$6.95

Interior Roof Console Light 41mm Festoon
SiriusLED Extremely Bright 400 Lumens 3020 Chipset Canbus Error Free LED Bulbs 1.72” 41MM 42MM Festoon 211-2 569 578 6000K Xenon White by SiriusLED
$10.95

Trunk Side Lights 36mm Festoon
SiriusLED Extremely Bright 400 Lumens 3020 Chipset Canbus Error Free LED Bulbs 1.50” 36MM Festoon 6418 DE3423 DE3425 White 6000K by SiriusLED
$10.95

Outside Mirror Puddle Lamps - Glovebox - Interior Floor Lights
SiriusLED 5050 SMD Pack of 10 White 6000K 194 T10 168 by SiriusLED
$14.99

Front Marker Lights - License Plate Lights
T10 LED Bulb Extremely Bright 3030 Chipset 194 168 SMD W5W LED Wedge Light 1.5W 12V(6pcs white) by WOXMA
$13.99

Front Cornering Lamps
SiriusLED Extremely Bright 35W 2835 Chipset 21 SMD LED Bulbs with Projector for Car Fog Lights Daytime Running DRL H8 Pure White by SiriusLED
$22.95

Front Turn Signal Lamps - Chrome plated Amber (non-LED) - As Bright or brighter than stock
Sylvania 3357A/3457A ST SilverStar 29-Watt High Performance Signal Light
$14.99

Interior Map Lights
SiriusLED Extremely Bright 400 Lumens 3020 Chipset Canbus Error Free LED Bulbs T10 168 194 2825 W5W 6000K Xenon White by SiriusLED
$10.95

Interior Visor Mirror Lights - 4
Siweex 10pcs T5 White Lights Neo Wedge LED 3-SMD 3528 Bulbs DC 12V by Siweex
$8.99

Door Safety Light - 2
SiriusLED Super Bright 2835 Chipset Canbus Error Free LED Festoon Bulbs 1.50” 36MM Festoon 6411 6418 C5W 6000K Xenon White Pack of 2
$9.97

GRAND TOTAL $125.72

*********************
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...f1ac3223fb.jpg



Hope that helps,

Dave

Tervuren 04-18-2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879244)
Eh not exactly. The window trim is chromed

The regular XK 2007-2009 has the chrome look plastic.

The XKR in this period has aluminum trim. It really looks good with the metallic colors, especially green.

Sean W 04-18-2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 1879429)
The regular XK 2007-2009 has the chrome look plastic.

The XKR in this period has aluminum trim. It really looks good with the metallic colors, especially green.

Nope, not plastic. The window trim on all XK's of this period is anodized aluminum. Not germane to the thread topic though.

amcdonal86 04-18-2018 08:33 PM

I'm not sure why people buy 10-15 year old cars, and then try to convert them into whatever the latest styles are. This includes converting bulbs to LED, etc.

IMO the 2007-2009 XK/XKRs are the most pure style of the X150. The later ones have weird tweaks that don't look organic to the design.

Tervuren 04-18-2018 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879726)
I'm not sure why people buy 10-15 year old cars, and then try to convert them into whatever the latest styles are. This includes converting bulbs to LED, etc.

IMO the 2007-2009 XK/XKRs are the most pure style of the X150. The later ones have weird tweaks that don't look organic to the design.

On some colors, the yellow lights really do look out of place.

The prototype show car did not have them.

The same for the side reflectors.

Then there is the life of a LED vs a bulb, less time taking the fender linings out and pulling the housings.

Cee Jay 04-18-2018 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879726)
I'm not sure why people buy 10-15 year old cars, and then try to convert them into whatever the latest styles are. This includes converting bulbs to LED, etc.

IMO the 2007-2009 XK/XKRs are the most pure style of the X150. The later ones have weird tweaks that don't look organic to the design.

What I can't understand is people who buy old cars that need a lot of work, then they spend MORE money making them just as bad as they were when new. Technology does improve, ya know.
Making anything BETTER than it was makes much more sense than spending copious amounts of cash to make it inferior, On Purpose.
That's just crazy.

amcdonal86 04-18-2018 09:14 PM

I'm really referring to the style changes to the cars. Are you guys really converting to LEDs because they are easier to maintain, or because you like the look? I'm guessing it's because you like the look. For me, I'd rather keep my incandescent bulbs because that is what is period to the car. But that's just me.

And then there have been so many threads about "upgrading" 2007-2009 incandescent tail lights to the LEDs of the 2010+ models. And adding the "leaper" badge to the rear decklid (found on the 2010+ models). Or the fender grilles to mimic the 2012+ models. IMO at some point you really end up with a pretty cheesy looking car. To me, it's not much different than going the other way around, like adding a leaper to your hood of your modern Jaguar!

Tervuren 04-18-2018 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879749)
And then there have been so many threads about "upgrading" 2007-2009 incandescent tail lights to the LEDs of the 2010+ models. And adding the "leaper" badge to the rear decklid (found on the 2010+ models). Or the fender grilles to mimic the 2012+ models. IMO at some point you really end up with a pretty cheesy looking car. To me, it's not much different than going the other way around, like adding a leaper to your hood of your modern Jaguar!

That sort of thread mostly stopped in 2016 when the "newer" car went out of production. So also have most of the super charging an XK, etc.

It does amaze me that some people buy the older/cheaper car, then want to faux the performance/looks failing to investigate before hand if just buying the newer car was less expensive than the new style parts on an old car.

I do not see that as being the issue here.

It is also something to tinker with and enjoy.

I'm not married, but I wouldn't expect my wife to wear the same pair clothes her entire life!

Ranchero50 04-18-2018 09:40 PM

I like the yellow lights on my Green one but those 'chrome' blue tinted bulbs make the whole housing look more modern. Has me thinking about buying a set but sad that I just changed them a couple months ago.

Aonsaithya 04-19-2018 02:39 AM

I switched the W5W bulbs to 4000K Osram LEDs and the cornering bulbs and fog lights to 4200K Osram halogens, because I wanted them to roughly match the 4350K Osram xenon bulbs. Getting a yellowish cornering beam to complement the natural white xenon beam was a fashion disaster.

Since we have no regulations demanding permamently-lit amber side markers or reflectors, I replaced the side marker bulbs with the same white Osram LEDs. I'll have to double-check to make sure they don't interfere with front indicator visibility from some angles, though.
Too bad the amber reflector is so impractical to remove...

I have also fitted those chrome-look diadem indicator bulbs in the front & side housings, just like the ones that were factory-fitted to the rear. I wouldn't really mind replacing them with LEDs, but I prefer the smooth transition of the incandescent bulb over the abrupt effect of the LEDs.
Are there any amber LEDs which kinda fade on/off?

EDIT: List of bulbs I used & their part numbers
Bi-xenon (D1S): Osram Night Breaker Unlimited - 66140XNB
Cornering lights (H8): Osram Cool Blue - 64212CBI
Fog lights (H11): Osram Cool Blue - 64211CBI
Side lights/markers (W5W): Osram LeDriving (4000K) - 2850WW-02B
Indicators (PY21W): Osram Diadem Chrome - 7507DC-02B
Side gill indicators (WY5W): Osram Diadem Chrome - 2827DC-02B

I think the LeDriving bulbs are also available in a colder tone.

10XKR 04-19-2018 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879726)
I'm not sure why people buy 10-15 year old cars, and then try to convert them into whatever the latest styles are. This includes converting bulbs to LED, etc.

IMO the 2007-2009 XK/XKRs are the most pure style of the X150. The later ones have weird tweaks that don't look organic to the design.

I get that completely, however the 2010-2011 is the model that is stuck between 2 worlds. I don't know how much time you have spent driving or being around the 10/11 models, especially at night, but it is quite dramatic to see the difference in the LED rear Lighting and the standard incandescent lighting at the front. Even more odd is the fantastic rear LEDs along with the incandescent License Plate lights. Overall lighting wise it looked "odd" . Of course in 2012 Jaguar fixed all of that with the next update.

In the meantime it is a simple task to rectify this with the laundry list I proposed. Now at night time it looks like a unified design, much like the earlier design with all incandescent lighting (with exception of Bi-Xenon Headlights), but now it looks like a much more modern design and IMHO is more in line with the original concept. The bulbs I chose also evened out the brightness levels front to rear.

On top of that we all know how battery challenged the XKs are and making this change throughout (inside/outside) has easily dropped the lighting load on the charging system in half, if not even more.

As I said I get the purist notion of not changing the character of the earlier models, I did the same for over 20 years with the Porsche 928 and resisted trying to change the nature of the old school look...with a few exceptions where I needed better lighting to match the increased power output of my Twin Screw Systems...we were literally out driving our headlights with the 200HP increase..but that is another story.

In other words, for a simple $125 mod that doesn't permanently change anything, why worry? :-)

Cheers,

Dave

10XKR 04-19-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Aonsaithya (Post 1879843)
I switched the W5W bulbs to 4000K Osram LEDs and the cornering bulbs and fog lights to 4200K Osram halogens, because I wanted them to roughly match the 4350K Osram xenon bulbs. Getting a yellowish cornering beam to complement the natural white xenon beam was a fashion disaster.

You are very correct about the "fashion disaster" with the original lighting. That one simple change makes a huge difference.., heck even changing the little white marker light to match the headlight color makes a big difference....

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...68446737cf.jpg


I would appreciate it if you could PM me the part numbers for the Osram bulbs you mentioned. I always prefer OEM brands over anything else and would like to give those a try to compare with what I have. Being in the entertainment Lighting business for over 2 decades in a past life, I have a little experience in lighting quality and quantity...have old a$$ light meter in hand and ready for testing :-)

Cheers,

Dave

jahummer 04-19-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879726)
I'm not sure why people buy 10-15 year old cars, and then try to convert them into whatever the latest styles are. This includes converting bulbs to LED, etc.

IMO the 2007-2009 XK/XKRs are the most pure style of the X150. The later ones have weird tweaks that don't look organic to the design.


Originally Posted by amcdonal86 (Post 1879749)

And then there have been so many threads about "upgrading" 2007-2009 incandescent tail lights to the LEDs of the 2010+ models. And adding the "leaper" badge to the rear decklid (found on the 2010+ models). Or the fender grilles to mimic the 2012+ models. IMO at some point you really end up with a pretty cheesy looking car. To me, it's not much different than going the other way around, like adding a leaper to your hood of your modern Jaguar!

Yes the 2007-2009 is closer to the ACL concept and personally I think, with the exception of the XKR-S, the 2012 XK & XKR front end update ruined the original design. However, if you look at the ACL LED tail lights, they resemble the 2010+ more than the original X150 which leads to me to think what we first gen owners were given cheap interim versions while they sorted out proper ones.

For me it was cheaper to spend $800 on new tail lights rather than buy a $140K XKR-S. The back-up camera, with new 2012+ GT carbon plinth and LED plate illumination was done because it could be, not because I needed it. And the numerous other mods, well, again just because I could and now it's a track car, no longer the GT cruiser it used to be.

u102768 04-25-2018 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by 10XKR (Post 1879349)
Front Turn Signal Lamps - Chrome plated Amber (non-LED) - As Bright or brighter than stock
Sylvania 3357A/3457A ST SilverStar 29-Watt High Performance Signal Light
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...8KON31YK&psc=1
$14.99

Thanks very much for the list but could you please confirm if the link that you put for the turn signal lamps is correct. I haven't taken mine out yet and it could be an error but the owners manual for my '10 XKR says that they are PY21W which look like these so appear to be a different fitment to the ones you listed.



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