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What do you guys think about 4 new choices for oil now available in USA.
They all meet the current Jaguar spec for 5.0 engine
1.https://www.racecompusa.com/product/...ne-oil-107339/
2.https://www.ebay.com/itm/JLR-51-5122...4383.l4275.c10
3.https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAVENOL-0W-...L/371451382462
4.https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BMW-Jag...n/361995063214

Thoughts, advise, warnings, ridicule, all welcome.
Castrol has become harder to find.
 
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Oh's Nooooooooooes! Not this again.
 
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For Fuch's sakes guys.
Did not even bring up Fuchs Motor Oil which was the 5th choice as I knew the group would snicker.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuchs-TITAN...2/292644919559
Have my eye on Jacco
Cant find Castrol- this is serious
 
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Pretty pricey stuff! I can get the Castrol Pro 0-20 at my dealer for under $8 a quart.
 
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I'm glad to see there are other possibilities available. I'm on a road trip at the moment and will visit a Jag dealer in Memphis to pick up a Castrol supply. I'll be looking to see comments about one of these as a possibility in any case though. Just changed oil the other day so I've got tons of time to read what the group comes up with.
 
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Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-20 meets the spec for the cars that require this grade and it can be bought on-line from Walmart for $25 for 5 quarts.
 
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Pretty pricey stuff! I can get the Castrol Pro 0-20 at my dealer for under $8 a quart.
I wish I could, and I am 5 mins from the dealer, but they want $12.88. No way to change oil every 9months at those prices and not feel taken.
$8 is a fantastic price or any POA based oil.
 
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Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-20 meets the spec for the cars that require this grade and it can be bought on-line from Walmart for $25 for 5 quarts.
Looks like a lot of Home Depot stores stocks this as well...
 
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One thing reassuring is that all 5 companies making this formulation, are all charging about the same price. So this must be expensive to produce.
But I dont care about the money, its the availability.
 
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I am reading 2015 and UP 5.0L engines for compatibility on these oils. Does this new spec apply to our 5.0Ls? ?
Sorry, too busy to do the research on my own right now but if you already know, please share
 

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Shemp,
Yes they silently went to it.
https://topix.jaguar.jlrext.com/topi...50a34ec&page=1

(I agree that it was a step in the right direction, there was an issue of oil not flowing fast enough to the chain tensioner on startup)
 

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If both (0W-20 and 5W-20) meet JLR lubrication specs, why spend more for the 0W-20? I doubt that the incrementally better fuel economy of the 0W-20 is worth the cost.
 
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Probably depends more on the min temperature your car sees. I never start my engine when it's bellow freezing, so 5W is probably fine for my case
 
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If both (0W-20 and 5W-20) meet JLR lubrication specs, why spend more for the 0W-20? I doubt that the incrementally better fuel economy of the 0W-20 is worth the cost.
No they are the same money, the older spec is the one harder to find and most likely old stock.
 
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Originally Posted by BlueXKR-S View Post
Probably depends more on the min temperature your car sees. I never start my engine when it's bellow freezing, so 5W is probably fine for my case
They went to the thinner oil due to soot loading.
I.e. it becomes same as 10w-20 after a while- which was causing complaints
You want the 0w in an XKRS that does not see winters- only so as to keep up with Jags latest advancements. (there are other things updated besides the viscosity)
 
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If both (0W-20 and 5W-20) meet JLR lubrication specs, why spend more for the 0W-20? I doubt that the incrementally better fuel economy of the 0W-20 is worth the cost.
I agree, and also what keeps the gears going inside my head is that part of the reason I have seen touted for the "0" is due to the tight tolerances of the 5.0...so what about as these engines age and wear with higher mileage. Wouldn't a 0 weight be detrimental vs a 5 weight with higher mileage above say 75K miles?

Just thinking out loud.

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I agree, and also what keeps the gears going inside my head is that part of the reason I have seen touted for the "0" is due to the tight tolerances of the 5.0...so what about as these engines age and wear with higher mileage. Wouldn't a 0 weight be detrimental vs a 5 weight with higher mileage above say 75K miles?

Just thinking out loud.

Dave
Use half 0W and half 5W.
 
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Originally Posted by 10XKR View Post
I agree, and also what keeps the gears going inside my head is that part of the reason I have seen touted for the "0" is due to the tight tolerances of the 5.0...so what about as these engines age and wear with higher mileage. Wouldn't a 0 weight be detrimental vs a 5 weight with higher mileage above say 75K miles?

Just thinking out loud.

Dave
I am watching mine now to see if there was any affect in going from 5W-20 to 0W-20. My 2012 XKR has always been dealer services either by the 1st owner or myself. Up until April of this year my service slip from the dealer listed 5W-20 . This year when I asked the dealer they said the TSB required them to go to 0W-20 with the 5.0L engine. So I have put on 2000 miles since my oil change and the e-dip stick still reads full. I don't think this would be a problem but I'll keep an eye on it to see. Trust but verify
 
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When the engine has warmed up to normal operating temperature, what difference does it make if it's filled with either 0W-20 or 5W-20? They're the same 20W viscosity when warm.

And I disagree with Q&C's conclusion that "they're both the same money". That depends on where you are. Prices vary by location.
 

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