A question of Wheel Authenticity
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You bring up a deeper point.
Why do we all make the same choices?
Why arent wheels the same color as the rest of the parts?
They were when we started (pic below).
Then we started making metal wheels and did not have paint good enough back in the day to take abuse.
Today paint is the toughest coating on wheels.
Yet we have established a precedent that wheels should be silver, so we paint them all silver. Or a new strange (and short-lived) trend of brake dust black wheels.
This is analogous to: At some desperate point we started drinking milk from very stinky unwashed animals, from their genital area no less.
Then times got worse and we started consuming this bodily secretion even when it had fermented.
Over time we started liking both fermented and moldy secretions- but only from the original stinky animals, never from our own kind or a cleanly kept dog- that would be repulsive.
Such is the power of precedent.
Why do we all make the same choices?
Why arent wheels the same color as the rest of the parts?
They were when we started (pic below).
Then we started making metal wheels and did not have paint good enough back in the day to take abuse.
Today paint is the toughest coating on wheels.
Yet we have established a precedent that wheels should be silver, so we paint them all silver. Or a new strange (and short-lived) trend of brake dust black wheels.
This is analogous to: At some desperate point we started drinking milk from very stinky unwashed animals, from their genital area no less.
Then times got worse and we started consuming this bodily secretion even when it had fermented.
Over time we started liking both fermented and moldy secretions- but only from the original stinky animals, never from our own kind or a cleanly kept dog- that would be repulsive.
Such is the power of precedent.
#45
I do find it fascinating to explore past history for the automobile, especially pre-WWII, as the automotive world seemed such a vast departure from what it is today. I'm very fortunate to have a friend to have a car museum that I go wonder about in from time to time and see the pre-war Bentelys, Alfas, Fords, Duesenbergs, Studebakers, etc and it's striking to see how much the industry has changed and also stayed the same. Over all size being a shocking variation where even "small" cars were the size of a stretched SUV of today.
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The best resale value/quickest sale for a Used Ferrari has been blue.
Red Ferraris make take months to sell, a blue one you can take months and get a premium, or sell in days at market price for what a red would be on the market for.
Just an observation of the short lived listings on blue Ferrari's compared to red.
This is as of the F430, I really haven't followed Ferrari's in recent years.
Red Ferraris make take months to sell, a blue one you can take months and get a premium, or sell in days at market price for what a red would be on the market for.
Just an observation of the short lived listings on blue Ferrari's compared to red.
This is as of the F430, I really haven't followed Ferrari's in recent years.
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The best resale value/quickest sale for a Used Ferrari has been blue.
Red Ferraris make take months to sell, a blue one you can take months and get a premium, or sell in days at market price for what a red would be on the market for.
Just an observation of the short lived listings on blue Ferrari's compared to red.
This is as of the F430, I really haven't followed Ferrari's in recent years.
Red Ferraris make take months to sell, a blue one you can take months and get a premium, or sell in days at market price for what a red would be on the market for.
Just an observation of the short lived listings on blue Ferrari's compared to red.
This is as of the F430, I really haven't followed Ferrari's in recent years.
Regardless, I have decided I will not be keeping these wheels and anyone who wants them can have them for what I have in them. $900 + freight.
#48
To let us the wheels for the full price that you got stiffed for.
Why would we not buy direct and save you the sacrifice.
They would be of interest to me at $400, their fair value. And I will have them picked up, no further effort needed.
#49
Funny as gray would be the last color I would select. Then again it will be just below black and white. So I guess we off set each other. Enjoy what ever you like.
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Well, I'm also the guy who prefers the XJS over E-type and the e60 over the e39. People go to war and commit genocide for less offensive statements....
#51
Had both the E-type and XJS nd enjoyed them both. As for Beemer's it's another car I won't own. Just don't care for the styling.
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#52
Well, just in case anyone was curious, I went ahead and mounted tires for a fit and finish test.
I believe for most people, the Sepangs are the clear winner.
I still want to get a set of Amirante one of these days. Not sure why I love that wheel, but perhaps that's just because I don't have any on hand and have never even seen them in person.
I believe for most people, the Sepangs are the clear winner.
I still want to get a set of Amirante one of these days. Not sure why I love that wheel, but perhaps that's just because I don't have any on hand and have never even seen them in person.
#53
Yes Jaguar racing wheels on that station wagon makes as much sense as spoiler on a Ford LTD.
Jaguar luxury/sport saloon wheels look fantastic!
Dont put any sport wheels on that soccer-mom car, it just looks retarded, others wont tell you that.
And all this time and effort you were talking about saving weight on a Volvo Wagon. Heck saw the back off and make it a pickup.
Jaguar luxury/sport saloon wheels look fantastic!
Dont put any sport wheels on that soccer-mom car, it just looks retarded, others wont tell you that.
And all this time and effort you were talking about saving weight on a Volvo Wagon. Heck saw the back off and make it a pickup.
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This would fit the form more then a volvo grocery getter. Forget the XF Sportbrake, Buy This Rare 1984 Jaguar XJ-S Lynx Eventer Station Wagon - The Drive
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This would fit the form more then a volvo grocery getter. Forget the XF Sportbrake, Buy This Rare 1984 Jaguar XJ-S Lynx Eventer Station Wagon - The Drive
I originally wrote grocery getter and then changed it to soccer mom.
Does anyone else feel as violated as giving a pretty lady a lift to find out its Bruce Jenner.
The funny thing is that his complaint is about authenticity- lol, blows the mind.
Upon reflection I have a better handle on the analogy.
Its like being asked for assistance and discussion in evaluating the quality of the top-of-the-line corset.... only to discover a month later it was for his sheep.
Last edited by Queen and Country; 02-24-2019 at 12:16 PM. Reason: second thoughts
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I would like to reiterate that we still have not had anyone chime in that is known to have original Vulcan wheels.
Both Mark and Prolix purchased theirs from resellers that may or may not have sold knockoffs.
I still have no expectation that a forged wheel is automatically lighter than a cast wheel.
There are several different aspects of strength when it comes to metal, and forging does not magically increase all of them.
The desire final profile and image are greater factors, as is desired strength.
Never make the assumption that just because a wheel is forged, it is lighter than one that isn't.
The 15" factory forged wheels for my 1984 944 are mildly heavier than the 15" standard cast wheels for 1984.
Both Mark and Prolix purchased theirs from resellers that may or may not have sold knockoffs.
I still have no expectation that a forged wheel is automatically lighter than a cast wheel.
There are several different aspects of strength when it comes to metal, and forging does not magically increase all of them.
The desire final profile and image are greater factors, as is desired strength.
Never make the assumption that just because a wheel is forged, it is lighter than one that isn't.
The 15" factory forged wheels for my 1984 944 are mildly heavier than the 15" standard cast wheels for 1984.
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