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Jagst 03-10-2019 06:46 AM

Replacement CTEK MX5
 
Replaced my ctek recently as the original was playing up. The battery is fine, but the new Ctek won’t move above position 4. Is it faulty or is there another answer.?

jagtoes 03-10-2019 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Jagst (Post 2037650)
Replaced my ctek recently as the original was playing up. The battery is fine, but the new Ctek won’t move above position 4. Is it faulty or is there another answer.?

Check the battery voltage again and see if you need to charge it. Also put the Ctek on another car and see if you get the same results. If so send it back and if it is OK then your Jag battery might be bad or the way you hooked it up needs to be looked at. Let us know what you find out.

bocatrip 03-10-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by jagtoes (Post 2037658)
Check the battery voltage again and see if you need to charge it. Also put the Ctek on another car and see if you get the same results. If so send it back and if it is OK then your Jag battery might be bad or the way you hooked it up needs to be looked at. Let us know what you find out.

I agree with this suggestion. Not impossible but unlikely to have a faulty CTEK. More probable to have a faulty battery. Try charging another car and then you’ll have a definitive answer.

SLazz 03-10-2019 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by bocatrip (Post 2037743)

I agree with this suggestion. Not impossible but unlikely to have a faulty CTEK. More probable to have a faulty battery. Try charging another car and then you’ll have a definitive answer.

My CTEK 3300 is less than a month old and it is defective. The tender starts out charging with a solid red charge light the switches to green. It's fully charged. Then the CTEK starts flashing red continuously with the green light solidly lit. It's my understanding this is not normal. So, I'm sending the sucker back for warranty work. BTW, my battery is less than a year old. Good luck to the OP with his issue.

sov211 03-10-2019 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by SLazz (Post 2037836)
My CTEK 3300 is less than a month old and it is defective. The tender starts out charging with a solid red charge light the switches to green. It's fully charged. Then the CTEK starts flashing red continuously with the green light solidly lit. It's my understanding this is not normal. So, I'm sending the sucker back for warranty work. BTW, my battery is less than a year old. Good luck to the OP with his issue.

And the CTEK manual that came with your unit says what regarding the flashing red light? It is, as has been suggested, unlikely that the CTEK unit is faulty - but not impossible.

Jagst 03-10-2019 03:59 PM

Yesterday it did not move past 4, today following a 50 mile drive after 5 hours it finally completed its cycle!!! Definitely different to my last Ctek.

Stuart S 03-10-2019 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jagst (Post 2037650)
Replaced my ctek recently as the original was playing up. The battery is fine, but the new Ctek won’t move above position 4. Is it faulty or is there another answer.?

Is your CTEK connected directly to your battery's positive and negative battery terminals? If so, that's incorrect.

For 5.0L models, the negative CTEK terminal must be connected to a chassis ground. Otherwise, the Battery Monitoring System won't work properly.

SLazz 03-10-2019 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by sov211 (Post 2037845)


And the CTEK manual that came with your unit says what regarding the flashing red light? It is, as has been suggested, unlikely that the CTEK unit is faulty - but not impossible.

According to the CTEK Manual the flashing red light should not constantly flash. An occasional flicker means the battery tender is doing its job while the flashing light could be a possible fault in the tender. At least that's what the CTEK Tech guy told me. He also told me to send the thing in.

riverman 03-10-2019 10:02 PM

My CTEK has been hooked up directly to the battery for almost 2 years without any issue.

Stuart S 03-10-2019 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by riverman (Post 2038007)
My CTEK has been hooked up directly to the battery for almost 2 years without any issue.

You're playing Russian roulette with your 2010 XKRs charging system by connecting the negative CTEK terminal to the negative battery terminal. That's contrary to what Jaguar recommends.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...c09e6581ba.jpg

Attached to the negative battery terminal is a Battery Monitoring System control module that is linked to the ECM . If you connect the negative charger terminal to the negative battery terminal you risk damaging that control module as well as the ECM. The negative charger lead should be connected to a body ground to bypass that control module. This applies to 5.0L X150 models.

For details, see:
https://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=88788

riverman 03-11-2019 12:16 AM

Great Documentation
 
Thanks Stuart for providing the documentation below. It's an excellent resource. I wish had seen it earlier today so that when I was topping off my battery I could have corrected my install. I did figure out a way of checking the fluid level by using an inverted glass eye dropper with the rubber bulb removed. It was relatively easy to see exactly how much liquid there was above the plates by dipping it in, holding my finger on the end and then pulling it out enough to look.


Originally Posted by Stuart S (Post 2038031)
You're playing Russian roulette with your 2010 XKRs charging system by connecting the negative CTEK terminal to the negative battery terminal. That's contrary to what Jaguar recommends.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...c09e6581ba.jpg

Attached to the negative battery terminal is a Battery Monitoring System control module that is linked to the ECM . If you connect the negative charger terminal to the negative battery terminal you risk damaging that control module as well as the ECM. The negative charger lead should be connected to a body ground to bypass that control module. This applies to 5.0L X150 models.

For details, see:
https://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=88788


arenaej 03-11-2019 08:17 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...781c42a2b.jpeg
This from the installation instructions for CTEK Multi US 3300 charger.

riverman 04-06-2019 05:59 PM

Documentation I moved the negative lead off of the battery terminal today. I didn't find a body mount point to secure the ground in the area indicated, (I have a convertible,) so I had to opt for next best ground I could find which was on the battery hold down with a couple washters sandwiching the connector. A zip tie and tidy routing for the leads keep them out of the way. Buttoned up the trunk after. Thanks again Stuart S, the documentation you provided was helpful to understanding the problem and how to solve it.

Stuart S 04-06-2019 08:38 PM

I'm pretty sure that you can attach your CTEK to the remote battery terminals in the trunk (boot), instead of attaching the red positive lead directly to the positive battery terminal and trying to find a chassis ground. I know that the remote battery terminals work for charging a 4.2L because that's how I attached my battery maintainer using the alligator clips.

The positive remote battery terminal is in the trunk on the left side behind a black plastic panel, and the negative remote terminal is in the spare tire compartment towards the rear of the car and near the center. For details, including photos, see: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...lay-ups-73471/ and my posts ##17, 18, and particularly #21 with photos.

jagtoes 04-06-2019 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by riverman (Post 2051450)
Documentation I moved the negative lead off of the battery terminal today. I didn't find a body mount point to secure the ground in the area indicated, (I have a convertible,) so I had to opt for next best ground I could find which was on the battery hold down with a couple washters sandwiching the connector. A zip tie and tidy routing for the leads keep them out of the way. Buttoned up the trunk after. Thanks again Stuart S, the documentation you provided was helpful to understanding the problem and how to solve it.

I attached my negative wire to a screw on the chassis that holds the modules to the right of the battery.


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