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Old 06-04-2018, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hafren
Lots of comments but none that answer my question(s). Is the F-type a re-skinned XK? It seems to share the same floorpan, chassis, engine (V8 variant).
Realize that Jaguar is a monocouqe so re-skining does not mean the same.
So they dont have the same chassis.
 
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Originally Posted by hafren
Lots of comments but none that answer my question(s). Is the F-type a re-skinned XK? It seems to share the same floorpan, chassis, engine (V8 variant).
28% of the structure is a carry over from the XK.
 
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We are a two car family, so the Rapide for me does it all (XE is hers). If the rear seat was a little bigger, I would've bought a DB9 GT. The XK's back seat was a little too tight for our corgi. Our last corgi was smaller and that seat worked for her.
 
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Originally Posted by u102768
28% of the structure is a carry over from the XK.
It looks to me like much of the crash structure design is retained(with some modification), but suspension pick up points are the principal changes.

This would save a lot of design time, as crash structure is one of the more difficult aspects for coming out with a new car.
 
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:30 AM
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If the XK had the new F-type taillights
I think it would look way better than the F-Type
 
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The creator and savior, Ian Callum, chose to take the elements from one supreme design, the Etype and leverage it across generations of cars, extending his tenure by the same. The trick was to always withhold something from one or the other.
 
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It will be interesting to see if a day arrives that removing the LED driving lights from new cars becomes a modification to look cool; as opposed to today when people are trying to add them to cars that did not come with them.
 
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A number of people commented that the ride of F-type was too harsh. I think they are missing the point that unlike XK/XKR that are grand tourer cars, F-type is a proper 2-seat roadster. I don't think it would be acceptable to soften suspension any more than they did. More so, one of the key complaints among F-type owners that suspension has too much travel, resulting in lean, when the car is on the track. Personally, I think JLR hit a sweet spot. I have zero complaints about it in both daily driving and track use. However, roads where I live are mostly decent. YMMV.
 
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
I don't think it would be acceptable to soften suspension any more than they did.
Have you driven a Lotus Evora? Compared to my XK, the Evora is a Cadillac over over the bumps.
 
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
A number of people commented that the ride of F-type was too harsh. I think they are missing the point that unlike XK/XKR that are grand tourer cars, F-type is a proper 2-seat roadster. I don't think it would be acceptable to soften suspension any more than they did. More so, one of the key complaints among F-type owners that suspension has too much travel, resulting in lean, when the car is on the track. Personally, I think JLR hit a sweet spot. I have zero complaints about it in both daily driving and track use. However, roads where I live are mostly decent. YMMV.
I had mentioned that the F-type did have a harsher ride but related it to how I would use it. As a note my Lexus ride is considerably better then my XKR but the F-type is worse then my XKR. The issue for me/us is on how the car is used. Our application is for long drives , weekend visits and going to the golf course. We did have a concern on our long trips of 4 hours or more but found the XKR to be fairly comfortable. The F-type reminded me of my youth driving my buckboard Corvette's. While taking a test ride in Albany NY the roads I drove on had a tendency to accent the stiffness of the ride. So for those who drive a sports type suspension the F might be a good choice. So enjoy what you like.
 
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Jagtoes,
I was too young when we had the Etypes to notice the subtleties. All I remember is that incredible sound as one drove from London to Brighton (2hrs) uninterrupted since there was no speed enforcement at that time.
Wasnt the Etype a grand tourer?
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Jagtoes,
I was too young when we had the Etypes to notice the subtleties. All I remember is that incredible sound as one drove from London to Brighton (2hrs) uninterrupted since there was no speed enforcement at that time.
Wasnt the Etype a grand tourer?
QC I had a 66 E-Type coupe. The 2 seater and not the 2+2. At that time in my life it was a sweet machine. 3 Carb , 265 HP and was a pretty swift car. The ride as I remember was smooth and comfortable but had very little body roll and stuck to the road on aggressive driving. Maybe the wire wheels or the large rubber 15" tires but to me at the time was the best of both worlds. Then again I traded in my 63 Corvette convertible (340HP) for it and the ride difference was night and day. Also while attending our yearly vintage car races the old E-type racers still seem to win their group. Enjoy the ride.
 
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One thing I have to say about ride, the real point of contact is the seat.

You could have no suspension movement with a welded suspension; yet if your seat is nicely sprung and dampened still have a nice ride.
 
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Originally Posted by makecopies
If the XK had the new F-type taillights
I think it would look way better than the F-Type
totally agree +1
unfortunately or tail lights look way too bulky
 
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I had initially only known about the F-Type but once I test drove the '14 XKR, and realized the roomy interior, I quickly ditched the idea for the F-Type. I'm sure there are some better handling characteristics, etc. but I feel a better sense of uniqueness in the XKR.
 
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
The zf8hp is brilliant keeps it in the constant power band

Unsure about the interiors on the standard f type but the British edition has seats very similar to the xkrs
Jesus, that car looks absolutely phenomenal in that bright electric blue (French Racing Blue?).

Just an incredibly well chosen cor to highlight the aggressive curves and accents. It's a car that begs to be looked at, and bright primary colors like this really do the trick. Same tactic.works on Lamborghinis and Lotuses.
 
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