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95 Cat 12-30-2018 08:39 PM

Surprised at No Gauges
 
It's too bad that there are no water temp, volt or amp, not to mention oil pressure gauges in the 2011 XKR. It does have TWO clocks though. Sure would be nice if there was at least one gauge between the spedo and tach like the gas gauge instead of that clock. I know there are ways to get an app for gauges in the nav. screen but I'm not going there. I am in love with this car though.

jagtoes 12-30-2018 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by 95 Cat (Post 2007311)
It's too bad that there are no water temp, volt or amp, not to mention oil pressure gauges in the 2011 XKR. It does have TWO clocks though. Sure would be nice if there was at least one gauge between the spedo and tach like the gas gauge instead of that clock. I know there are ways to get an app for gauges in the nav. screen but I'm not going there. I am in love with this car though.

My post #16 on "weather drive break "post is what I use . Simple but does the trick.

Cee Jay 12-30-2018 10:06 PM

OR:


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ea72d5af01.jpg

...using info in this thread....

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-camp2-175877/

Tervuren 12-31-2018 08:45 AM

It is a different driving experience.

In the Jaguar I tend to take in the world around me more than when driving my other cars.

Stuart S 12-31-2018 09:22 AM

Another solution, and probably the easiest and least expensive.

I use an inexpensive ($20) Bluetooth ELM 327 OBDII code reader and the free Torque App on my ancient Samsung Droid Incredible smartphone to wirelessly display virtual temperature and voltage gauges. Here it is in my XJ:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...1d27552151.jpg

Queen and Country 12-31-2018 03:06 PM

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Guys here is a solution some of you will find much better than factory gauges.

It mounts under the dash and out of view.
Its meant to be heard not seen....
That's what makes it better- you can set the threshold for the alarm..On both Temp and Volts.
The bonus is that it can read all the other odb2 data and you never have fool with Bluetooth connection- and there are no adverts being downloaded in background.
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/P10-...ic-399337.html
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...6146b5509e.jpg

Sean W 12-31-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 2007663)
Guys here is a solution some of you will find much better than factory gauges.

It mounts under the dash and out of view.
Its meant to be heard not seen....
That's what makes it better- you can set the threshold for the alarm..On both Temp and Volts.
The bonus is that it can read all the other odb2 data and you never have fool with Bluetooth connection- and there are no adverts being downloaded in background.

I saw this too Q&C. I think it's a fantastic alternative for those who don't want the gauges, but also, one less BT connection in the car. Thanks for posting.

MarkyUK 12-31-2018 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 2007663)
Guys here is a solution some of you will find much better than factory gauges.

It mounts under the dash and out of view.
Its meant to be heard not seen....
That's what makes it better- you can set the threshold for the alarm..On both Temp and Volts.
The bonus is that it can read all the other odb2 data and you never have fool with Bluetooth connection- and there are no adverts being downloaded in background.
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/P10-...ic-399337.html
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...6146b5509e.jpg


Let's see pics of it working in your XK then Q&C?

Personally I think it looks a monstrosity conceived and designed by someone with a Mary Shelley complex, that'll never see the inside of my XK for sure, the only things I miss are:

1) Coolant temp
2) A proper dipstick
3) Getting the external temp to display in my central display (between the two dials) less than 5c and I'll take it easy

All the rest of the info is, IM (not so H)O, superfluous


Sean W 12-31-2018 05:33 PM

Marky, I agree on the looks. If I had one, I would keep it out of sight and rely on the alarms. I think that's what Q&C was referencing. So the sound version of an idiot light which, let's face it, that's all most want or need. I wondered myself how loud the alarms are and whether this could rest in the glove box.

Queen and Country 12-31-2018 06:00 PM

Sean they claim 30db. The threshold for the alarm values must be user defined, as most guys using this were using it as an audible speedlimit reminder.

My thoughts exactly on the BT. Damn fed up of pairing issues. I know lots of you guys have had perfect luck with BT, but I have a ziplock bag full of unreliable BT readers.
So it works better than 'Torque' just as a reliable ODB2 reader.

It can go under the dash, under the seat velcroed, in the armrest.

Queen and Country 12-31-2018 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2007703)
Personally I think it looks a monstrosity conceived and designed by someone with a Mary Shelley complex, that'll never see the inside of my XK for sure, the only things I miss are:

Nothing added on the the car looks good- this is one of the rare things that can be completely hidden, as it works on the principle of sound- and it needs no power.
It eliminates monitoring entirely.

Voltage and oil pressure is very useful, especially in this car.

peterv8 01-01-2019 04:25 AM

Wonder if it'll fit down by the ashtray?

jagtoes 01-01-2019 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by peterv8 (Post 2007824)
Wonder if it'll fit down by the ashtray?

Take the dimensions on the spec sheet and make a cardboard cutout. See how and where it would fit. It is ashamed we even need to consider something like this but I would think the ugliness would be off set by the information it provides. I've got the torque prow but it's a PITA to sync up and then tie up my phone. The GIV option doesn't allow me to drive with my nav screen on which I always do so I use the little scan gauge which is ugly but fairly small.

pwpacp 01-01-2019 09:13 AM

Does anyone know if the alarm points are adjustable? It seemed to indicate not but that is somewhat hard to determine from their information. The fixed metric readout is not a problem since I would tuck it away out of sight, but alarm flexibility is critical.

Stuart S 01-01-2019 10:07 AM

The identical item is available for less on the AliExpress website. Note that it's plugged into the OBDII port and where you can put it is limited by the length of the cable.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...19b95c1853.jpg


My Post #5 solution, above, works for me . I've never had a problem with BT pairing.

Sean W 01-01-2019 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by pwpacp (Post 2007870)
Does anyone know if the alarm points are adjustable? It seemed to indicate not but that is somewhat hard to determine from their information. The fixed metric readout is not a problem since I would tuck it away out of sight, but alarm flexibility is critical.

Are you asking if you can set two or more distinct alarms, say one for coolant temp and one for Voltage, and the distinction is either by volume or tone?

Cee Jay 01-01-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Sean W (Post 2007904)
Are you asking if you can set two or more distinct alarms, say one for coolant temp and one for Voltage, and the distinction is either by volume or tone?

Torque has the Alarm options on many of their gauges, but not the 'info' type gauges such as lateral Gs, HP, lap times, Fuel Trims and such. You can set both High Limit and Low Limit alarms. Both audible and visual (flashing) options.

pwpacp 01-01-2019 12:24 PM

@ Sean W
I states that the speed alarm default can be changed but does not indicate if that carries over for other functions.
I'm ordering one & will find out how it works.....the price certainly isn't a killer.

Setting

​-Warning: turn on/off the buzzer.
-Speed Alarm: the default value is 150(the default value can be changed,push left is to decrease,push right is to increase).
-Coolant alarmdefault value is 120°, it means this device will give alarm when Coolant temperature is over 120°.
-RPM alarm: default value is 6000 r, it means this device will give alarm when RPM over 6000 r.
-BAT Alarm: default value is 10.5V, it means this device will give alarm when battery voltage is lower than 10.5V.
-Speed Adjust: adjust the speed according to the dashboard, default value is 107%.
-Speed Offset: When the vehicle turns off,but the device speed is not 0, then adjust the device Speed Offset value, if the device speed shows 5KM/H, then change the device Speed Offset default value at 5.

Queen and Country 01-01-2019 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by pwpacp (Post 2007870)
Does anyone know if the alarm points are adjustable?

Saw this review on Amazon might be helpful.

July 17, 2018
Verified Purchase
5 stars because it’s just what I needed. Factory coolant gauge is not real helpful, this gets a digital reading. Adjust speed for tire size and quick look at DTC codes and clear if necessary.

Something in description made me think might not work on 98 Toyota 4Runner but it works great.

Not military grade but 5 stars for value.

I have it low on my steering column, light sensor faces shadow so I’d like it a little brighter but I like how it’s subtle. Bonus is alarm for speed limit and coolant temp.

The little mounting pad is perfect.

I tried a couple other ODB Bluetooth products to phone but nothin else was get in and go every time like this one is. Set it up and forget it. Instructions are not great but intuition got me set up.

pwpacp 01-01-2019 03:57 PM

Yep, read the same. Thats why I opted to give it a try.
I'll post results after it shows up.


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