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lossking_ 12-10-2017 04:15 PM

255/35 20 wheels rubbing
 
285/30 20 and 255/35 20 are standard right? I have a base xkr coupe that had 255 rears and 245 fronts. I upgraded my wheels and I love them. Fits the wheel well perfectly. But certain bumps or uneven pavement makes them rub just a bit. Is this normal? Are the wheel arches different on the base or something? https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...6f2878eec5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ebff72632f.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...a9ebe8eff6.jpg

Cambo 12-10-2017 04:28 PM

As those are aftermarket wheels, the offset is possibly wrong compared to OEM 20's, which could be the reason for the rubbing.

lossking_ 12-10-2017 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 1806900)
As those are aftermarket wheels, the offset is possibly wrong compared to OEM 20's, which could be the reason for the rubbing.

Yes these are aftermarket wheels. I'm guessing I'll have to get spacers?

Cambo 12-10-2017 04:32 PM

From your photos it looks like they are poking out further than stock rims, spacers won't fix that.

lossking_ 12-10-2017 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 1806906)
From your photos it looks like they are poking out further than stock rims, spacers won't fix that.

Hmm... Maybe a light (professional) fender roll might do the trick.

mhminnich 12-10-2017 04:48 PM

I saw a good video on aftermarket wheel offsets. For positive offset the wheel hub is built up more on the inside of the wheel face. To change the offset to more negative they mill off the extra material. Wheel strength was not affected.

bcprice36 12-11-2017 05:22 PM

Wheels, Wheels and more Wheels!
 
LossKing,

The stock BBS Montreal and Detroit Wheels are 255/35-20 Front and 285/30-20 Rear...

The outset on your new Wheels appears to be sticking out farther than the BBS Wheels do.....Which means of course that you probably need to do as Mhminnich has suggested which will bring them back in somewhat so they won't drag on the Fender Lip.....They do appear to be sticking out a good 1/2" or so farther than my 20" BBS Montreal's.......

Also, your front-end may need some work....You know shock-Towers could effect this also......But please, don't do anything to the Fenders! (Fender Roll)

They look pretty good and I'll bet they were a lot less than BBS's would have been!

Billy Clyde in Houston

Om28v 12-11-2017 05:52 PM

Those wheels look sweet...may be worth working them a little if there is enough material. I went 15mm spacers on the back and it stopped an inside rub, a very slight one. Is it your fronts rubbing or your backs or both? Offset is important. I would wonder if milling off 10 to 15mm would correct it?
Offset is a measurable #, not some great mystery.
I don't know if there are people out there who would even take on the risk to mill the hub section of the wheels. Those do look really really good on your car though.

bcprice36 12-12-2017 10:47 PM

20" BBS Wheels "Montreal"
 
Lossking,

Looking closely at your new 20" Wheels and trying to compare how they fit in your wheel wells compared to mine....is hard to do at these angles but it appears that your wheels stick-out a little more than mine or it could be that your Front-end shocks need rebuilding...My wheels & Tires seem to be inside the wheel-wells, whereas yours are more even with the edge or roll of the Fenders... Compare the Photo of my left front to your left-side Photos...Measure from the outside Roll to the Tire and send the Measurements, I'll compare and let you know....The Tires are: Front: 255X35-20 Front & 285X30-20 Rear and are Continentals DW's. Your Wheels may need to be trimmed on the back center-piece, as was suggested earlier....

Billy Clyde in Houston


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...94257e4343.jpg

The Texas XKR with Clear Marker Lights

lossking_ 12-12-2017 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Om28v (Post 1807488)
Those wheels look sweet...may be worth working them a little if there is enough material. I went 15mm spacers on the back and it stopped an inside rub, a very slight one. Is it your fronts rubbing or your backs or both? Offset is important. I would wonder if milling off 10 to 15mm would correct it?
Offset is a measurable #, not some great mystery.
I don't know if there are people out there who would even take on the risk to mill the hub section of the wheels. Those do look really really good on your car though.

I appreciate it. It's the front that rubs over certain hard bumps. Others don't make it rub. I don' know how comfortable I feel about milling them. I feel kinda bummed because I don' wwant to roll the fenders either, but I'm wondering if I should sell them now.

lossking_ 12-12-2017 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by bcprice36 (Post 1808175)
Lossking,

Looking closely at your new 20" Wheels and trying to compare how they fit in your wheel wells compared to mine....is hard to do at these angles but it appears that your wheels stick-out a little more than mine or it could be that your Front-end shocks need rebuilding...My wheels & Tires seem to be inside the wheel-wells, whereas yours are more even with the edge or roll of the Fenders... Compare the Photo of my left front to your left-side Photos...Measure from the outside Roll to the Tire and send the Measurements, I'll compare and let you know....

Billy Clyde in Houston


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...94257e4343.jpg

The Texas XKR with Clear Marker Lights

I will when I get it back from the shop. I'm getting some work done at the moment. Wheel bearings, tensioners were fine for an 02 surprisingly, etc
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d063a231f1.jpg

mhminnich 12-12-2017 11:10 PM

No expert, but if milling, you aren't doing anything different than what the factory did to start with. It's only the inside hub of the wheel.
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Here is someone who advertises the service.
http://www.caliwheels.com/wheel-machining-p-4.htm


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lossking_ 12-12-2017 11:11 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...9b8e9fd756.jpgBefore I cleaned them

lossking_ 12-12-2017 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by mhminnich (Post 1808179)
No expert, but if milling, you aren't doing anything different than what the factory did to start with. It's only the inside hub of the wheel.
​​​​​
Here is someone who advertises the service.
http://www.caliwheels.com/wheel-machining-p-4.htm


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That's actually pretty close. About 70 miles away from me

lossking_ 12-12-2017 11:16 PM

You guys know the right offset?

baxtor 12-12-2017 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by lossking_ (Post 1808182)
You guys know the right offset?

As far as I know the detroits were 20x10 with 25 offset at the rear and 20x9 with 30 offset at the front.
If your replacements are the same width front and back it may be part of your problem since jag ran an inch narrower at the front.
You may just have to make up your own offset to suit based on your fit.

lossking_ 12-14-2017 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by baxtor (Post 1808183)
As far as I know the detroits were 20x10 with 25 offset at the rear and 20x9 with 30 offset at the front.
If your replacements are the same width front and back it may be part of your problem since jag ran an inch narrower at the front.
You may just have to make up your own offset to suit based on your fit.

This is what I havehttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...06bfafb0a0.png

frankc 12-14-2017 05:59 PM

This may sound simple compared to the previous answers. Are you sure your wheel arch liners are up and tight to the body work? It looks like yours are sagging a bit. If they are loose they will catch esp when your going around corners.

baxtor 12-14-2017 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by lossking_ (Post 1809203)

l think you are OK at rear ( within couple of mm) but at the front you need to lose up to 15mm from inside hub face.

lossking_ 12-14-2017 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by baxtor (Post 1809210)
l think you are OK at rear ( within couple of mm) but at the front you need to lose up to 15mm from inside hub face.

Well that' going to suck...The rear is a bit different too
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...af5db20234.png


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