XK8 / XKR ( X100 ) 1996 - 2006
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Low coolant message, not

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-17-2015, 03:33 PM
kstevusa's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Middle Tn. near Hsv. Al
Posts: 718
Received 562 Likes on 269 Posts
Default Low coolant message, not

My overflow tank (2003 XK8) is topped and the system holds pressure with no sweet smell evident. After the car cools and I remove the cap and use my wire probe to move the float up and down, the message disappears. After reading Gus's narrative, perhaps the sensor, float or both are fouled by lime or other chemical. Would you expect harmful effect if the tank was removed and flushed with 50/50% vinegar and water solution? This should remove most contamination shouldn't it? What say ye?
 
  #2  
Old 03-17-2015, 03:36 PM
WhiteXKR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Arlington VA USA
Posts: 7,652
Received 2,981 Likes on 2,123 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kstevusa
My overflow tank (2003 XK8) is topped and the system holds pressure with no sweet smell evident. After the car cools and I remove the cap and use my wire probe to move the float up and down, the message disappears. After reading Gus's narrative, perhaps the sensor, float or both are fouled by lime or other chemical. Would you expect harmful effect if the tank was removed and flushed with 50/50% vinegar and water solution? This should remove most contamination shouldn't it? What say ye?
The float is inside the tank, the sensor is outside. Your proposal might clear the problem if the float is stuck, which is common. Just rinse it thoroughly afterwards.
 
  #3  
Old 03-17-2015, 03:40 PM
Jon89's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 12,533
Received 4,274 Likes on 2,811 Posts
Default

Consider a new coolant expansion tank cap as well. Yours may have failed. When they do, your coolant does not properly flow back and forth between the expansion tank and the atmospheric recovery tank. Coolant can also leak out around the cap seal no matter how tightly you crank it down. That is exactly what my wife's 2006 XK8's cap was doing a few weeks ago. I replaced it with a new one (about $18) and all is well again....
 
The following users liked this post:
kstevusa (03-17-2015)
  #4  
Old 03-17-2015, 03:56 PM
kstevusa's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Middle Tn. near Hsv. Al
Posts: 718
Received 562 Likes on 269 Posts
Default

Thanks for quick replies, but I'm now a bit confused. Looking at the pics on Gus's procedure, it appears the float encircles the coolant level sensor (LNA740AB) inside the tank and moves up & down. Either could impede the movement and provide a false reading. I cannot visualize the sensor on the outside. Please correct if my perception is in error? I have made 1 mistake in the past 60+ years, :-)
 
  #5  
Old 03-17-2015, 05:04 PM
tberry6686's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 223
Received 34 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

I had been having the same warning on and off for a few weeks. In my case it was the sensor that was fault and was replaced for £12 for a good second hand one on ebay.
 
  #6  
Old 03-17-2015, 05:24 PM
test point's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ellijay
Posts: 5,385
Received 1,110 Likes on 932 Posts
Default

The sensor is installed into the tube that the float rides up and down on. The inside of that tube is 'outside' or maybe better described as isolated from the coolant as is the sensor.
 
  #7  
Old 03-17-2015, 05:41 PM
kstevusa's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Middle Tn. near Hsv. Al
Posts: 718
Received 562 Likes on 269 Posts
Default

Thanks for explaining the "Sensor" term . The tube that encloses the sensor is the item I tried to describe. The float encircles the tube with sensor inside. It rides up and down with coolant level providing the reading that opens and closes the switch. Guess it will not cause a problem if i use a mild solution to clean and flush the tank. Thanks again and the info from you guys is extremely helpful. SAFETY FASTER!
 
  #8  
Old 03-17-2015, 07:39 PM
test point's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ellijay
Posts: 5,385
Received 1,110 Likes on 932 Posts
Default

If you want to 'clean' it and are willing to remove it from the car I would use vinegar which is a stronger acid than a commercial coolant system cleaner. Certainly won't hurt the plastic tank.
 
The following users liked this post:
kstevusa (03-17-2015)
  #9  
Old 03-18-2015, 04:50 AM
jamdmyers's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Poughkeepsie NY
Posts: 1,031
Received 271 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

While you have the tank off if that's how you'll flush it pull the sensor from underneath, it's snaps in/out but be very gentle the probe breaks quite easily and clean the probe as well, might give the connector a cleaning too.
 
The following users liked this post:
kstevusa (03-18-2015)
  #10  
Old 03-18-2015, 07:11 AM
Dennis07's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,708
Received 443 Likes on 314 Posts
Default

I think it's more likely that the float has lost buoyancy than that it is gunked up with lime or something else.

There is a thread (somewhere) from a year or two ago where some of us worked on this. A fix is to make a little c-shaped floatation aid (a water bottle cap is suitable material if I remember right) that can be sort of snapped in place under the float to help it ... float.

If you do remove the tank, you might check for this condition before putting it back in place.

Good luck.
 

Last edited by Dennis07; 03-18-2015 at 09:08 AM.
The following users liked this post:
kstevusa (03-18-2015)
  #11  
Old 08-01-2015, 11:16 AM
kstevusa's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Middle Tn. near Hsv. Al
Posts: 718
Received 562 Likes on 269 Posts
Default

Update on Expansion Tank RESOLVED, replaced original with an A/M brand (URO) tank from Vendor on E-Bay. They sell OEM and A/M. The replacement was $95 incl S&H. It had new cap and sensor; ready to install. No more LOW COOLANT LEVEL message!
 
The following 3 users liked this post by kstevusa:
Jon89 (08-02-2015), RJ237 (08-01-2015), test point (08-01-2015)
  #12  
Old 08-01-2015, 09:16 PM
growler's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Webster Groves
Posts: 72
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I replaced my coolant tank with sensor and cap with a part from SG Barret cot was 115US and took less than. Half hour.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Wahooesprit
X-Type ( X400 )
17
12-23-2019 02:01 PM
jimmiejag
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
4
09-09-2015 02:56 PM
1100me
XJS ( X27 )
2
09-07-2015 06:26 AM
Xkr x100
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
7
09-06-2015 08:50 AM
XFR_Gold
XF and XFR ( X250 )
2
09-02-2015 12:24 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Low coolant message, not



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:46 AM.