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nalle 06-14-2019 08:34 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what is JTIS21
 
As a newbie, I have been looking for a reasonable shop manual. There are lots of writings here about installing JTIS21. Seems very complicated! Windows XP or Win7? Not a straight forward installation, for sure - and I am not totally ignorant when it comes to computers.

So I went on line and for $25 downloaded a couple of PDF manual from EManualsOnline The Shop Manual was 1920 pages and the Wiring Diagrams was 152 pages. Lots of good stuff!

What am I missing?? Why should I get and install the JTIS21 stuff?????

RJ237 06-14-2019 08:51 AM

I haven't seen the Emanual, but I suppose it contains all the info of JTIS 21. Is the download specific for the XK8?

sklimii 06-14-2019 08:54 AM

While JTIS21 is nice to have even though it can be a bit of a pain to get working, the pdf Workshop manual, JEPC and wiring diagrams that are available for FREE download in the DIY sticky in the XK8/XKR section forum are just as useful

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ts-data-29800/

You can also get a ton of info from Gus's website http://www.jagrepair.com/

nalle 06-14-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by RJ237 (Post 2084829)
I haven't seen the Emanual, but I suppose it contains all the info of JTIS 21. Is the download specific for the XK8?

Yes, It is for the XK8 specific and also the R. The years I got was 2003 - 2006 that covers VIN A30645 - A48684.
The download has six files for the Wiring from 97 and forward.and then 2 files for the Shop manual. Lots of pages and high quality and printable..

nalle 06-14-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by sklimii (Post 2084830)
While JTIS21 is nice to have even though it can be a bit of a pain to get working, the pdf Workshop manual, JEPC and wiring diagrams that are available for FREE download in the DIY sticky in the XK8/XKR section forum are just as useful

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ts-data-29800/

You can also get a ton of info from Gus's website http://www.jagrepair.com/

The Forum and all the links are an awesome source of information that I always use. However, it is also nice to have a PDF source on your Tablet that is always with you on the road or in the garage. There are times when the internet is beyond our reach.

sklimii 06-14-2019 09:16 AM

those are available as pdf downloads from the DIY section.

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Parts List and Diagrams for 1997-2005, Pages 1-10 (in pdf)
Parts List and Diagrams for 1997-2005, Pages 11-23 (in pdf)
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More Parts Files (kindly supplied by hlgeorge)
XK8 Parts, locations and identification fiches. (in pdf format)

XK8 Parts, File 1
· Engine
· Engine Management/Emission Systems
· Air and Fuel Delivery Systems
· Engine Cooling Systems
· Exhaust System and Components
· Transmission and Driveline
· Steering and Suspension
· Braking System
· Air con/Heating/Ventilation
· Wiper and Washer Systems

XK8 Parts, File 2
· Electrical Distribution System
· Information Systems and Controls
· Battery/Starter Motor/Alternator
· In Car Entertainment
· Lighting- Exterior/Interior
· Locking/Security Systems/Horns
· Seating
· Occupant Restraints
· Interior Trim and Linings

XK8 Parts, File 3
· Exterior Fittings and Sunroof
· Body Closures and Sealing
· Body Metal Panels and Sealing
· Accessories/Consumables/Index
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WORKSHOP MANUALS - PDF Format
Three Workshop Manuals are available in PDF format (thanks to jonscot):

1. First Edition - 1997
http://www.mediafire.com/view/kuq3r0...ed_in_1997.pdf
The 'First edition' is a scan of the original paper Workshop Manual in the same style and layout as for earlier models (XJ40 / X300).

2. Second Edition - 1999
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ldfaed...ed_in_1999.pdf
The 'Second Edition' is created as a PDF with the ability to navigate from the index. It is for the 4.0 litre models

3. Third Edition - 2003
http://www.mediafire.com/view/0iiiuu...ed_in_2003.pdf
The 'Third edition' is also a fully navigable PDF for the 4.2 litre models.

GGG 06-14-2019 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by nalle (Post 2084843)
..... it is also nice to have a PDF source on your Tablet that is always with you on the road or in the garage. There are times when the internet is beyond our reach.

For such blessed and increasingly rarer periods of isolation from the OnLine World, I have JTIS (Jaguar Technical Information System) and JEPC (Jaguar Electronic Parts Catalogue) on my laptop together with Jaguar SDD (Symptom Driven Diagnostics).

To become totally self-sufficient, I'm hoping to add a Pluvial Panel for battery recharging as a Solar Panel is useless in England.

Graham

nalle 06-14-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2084850)
For such blessed and increasingly rarer periods of isolation from the OnLine World, I have JTIS (Jaguar Technical Information System) and JEPC (Jaguar Electronic Parts Catalogue) on my laptop together with Jaguar SDD (Symptom Driven Diagnostics).

To become totally self-sufficient, I'm hoping to add a Pluvial Panel for battery recharging as a Solar Panel is useless in England.

Graham

Please enlighten me! What is the SDD??

GGG 06-14-2019 01:06 PM

SDD = Symptom Driven Diagnostics. It's the JLR dealer diagnostics system for Jaguar and Land Rover vehicles. A laptop installation using a Drew Technologies "Mongoose" cable to connect to the vehicle data port.

Plenty of information and discussion in this thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...d-truth-32683/

Graham

nalle 06-14-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2084956)
SDD = Symptom Driven Diagnostics. It's the JLR dealer diagnostics system for Jaguar and Land Rover vehicles. A laptop installation using a Drew Technologies "Mongoose" cable to connect to the vehicle data port.

Plenty of information and discussion in this thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...d-truth-32683/

Graham

Now we are getting somewhere! So, I also read a lot about a Chinese copy of the Mongoose Cable and Software. Is there any info on how well/if it works, or is the only option to sell the farm??

GGG 06-15-2019 06:49 AM

The Chinese copies are OK for troubleshooting and code reading BUT I would NEVER risk programming modules with one. Some members have got away with it but there's a few reports of "bricking" the vehicle which is definitely a "sell the farm" situation.

Graham

nalle 06-15-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2085238)
The Chinese copies are OK for troubleshooting and code reading BUT I would NEVER risk programming modules with one. Some members have got away with it but there's a few reports of "bricking" the vehicle which is definitely a "sell the farm" situation.

Graham

Graham,
Thanks for all your info. Much appreciated. I realize now that my $25:- download is the same as the Mediafire third edition down load. Live and learn.

Also re. your Pluvial Panels..... With our 360 days of Arizona sunshine, my 4.5kW of solar panel provide 100% of my needs. But, maybe more important, no rust on the Jag.

GGG 06-16-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by nalle (Post 2085249)
..... re. your Pluvial Panels..... With our 360 days of Arizona sunshine, my 4.5kW of solar panel provide 100% of my needs. But, maybe more important, no rust on the Jag.

How ever do you cope on the other five days? :icon_lol:

:icon_rain: Graham :icon_rain:


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