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Ipc838 11-08-2011 08:45 PM

Is this an XKR-100 VIN?
 
SAJDA41B42PA28646
This car might/ might not be for sale at the moment.

Just kidding here's the link. Looks like an R100 to me.

Cars for Sale: 2002 Jaguar XKR Coupe in Fort Lauderdale, FL 33304: Coupe Details - 308524335 - AutoTrader.com

xenophobe 11-08-2011 11:02 PM

Black XKR coupe. I like it!

RCSign 11-09-2011 01:16 PM

It looks like the correct Vin# and it looks like a 100. They assembly them so there is not a particular vin # just for limited additions. They may build one today and it will have the vin that's in the series on the assembly line and they may build them over a period of time. Here's How the Vin# breaks down. This is for a 2001 but 2002 are similar

here are 17 characters in a VIN, which break down as follows:
Character 1 Country of Manufacture
S=UK
Character 2 Manufacturer*
A=Jaguar
Character 3 Marque
J= Jaguar
Character 4 Market and Airbag Specification
A=Rest of world
B, F, X= Canada
D, E, J, W=USA
K=Japan
P, R, Y=Mexico
Character 5 Transmission and Steering
A=LHD Automatic
C=RHD Automatic
Characters 6 & 7 Body Code
41=coupe
42=convertible
Character 8 Emission Control Equipment
26 options, which vary according to market. Examples below.
B=USA
J=UK
N=Europe
Character 9 Check Digit
Numerical value based on the sum of the digits in the VIN.
Calculation method
Character 10 Model Year
Y=2000
1=2001
Character 11 Engine Capacity
P=4.0 litre Supercharged
Character 12 Model
A=XK8/R (X100)
Character’s 13 - 17 Serial Number
A sequential production number unique to each X100 produced.

mcbeefsteak 11-09-2011 02:55 PM

Looks like mine except in coupe. Coupes are cool.

100's have - XKR 100 badge on nose, 20" BBS Montreals, Brembo brakes, XKR 100 emboss on aluminum door sills, special colored wood (daughter calls it "mossy wood") , "XKR 100" in gold letters on right bottom passenger side dash, aluminum pedals and shifter trim, "R" steering wheel emboss in center, Recaros with special leather.

I will take pics tonight and post.

mcbeefsteak 11-09-2011 03:24 PM

Researched this car - might be a warning flag here. Previous owner seems enthusiastic and knowledgeable, but he lists the mileage as 60,590 on Oct 18, and the dealer currently lists it as 46,000.

ULTRA RARE 2002 Jaguar XKR 100 Coupe - 1 of 30 EVER! - AutoZin.com

So, how did it get from California to Florida in less than a month, and why the mileage discrepancy?

Car is at an easy credit dealer. Unsure how easy it is to roll or replace the odometer on this car, but it looks fishy.

The Coupe 11-09-2011 03:54 PM

There is some weird, shady stuff happening out there. Yesterday, I noticed THIS COUPE on cars.com, listed in Naples, FL at $ 34,900 (dream on) with 24,800 miles.

And several listings down, one finds THIS OTHER COUPE several thousand miles away in Chula Vista, CA...listed at $ 16,700, with 73,522 miles.

Both listings show the same photographs, of the same car. The individual seller in California has hijacked the photographs of the car in Florida, and is therefor misrepresenting her car.

randyb 11-09-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by The Coupe (Post 427374)
There is some weird, shady stuff happening out there. Yesterday, I noticed THIS COUPE on cars.com, listed in Naples, FL at $ 34,900 (dream on) with 24,800 miles.

And several listings down, one finds THIS OTHER COUPE several thousand miles away in Chula Vista, CA...listed at $ 16,700, with 73,522 miles.

Both listings show the same photographs, of the same car. The individual seller in California has hijacked the photographs of the car in Florida, and is therefor misrepresenting her car.

There is no fraud, this common practice to use stock photos, the vins are different.

Ipc838 11-09-2011 04:12 PM

I, too, see that ALL the time! Like, I've seen photos from jag forum members' cars (maybe they are selling?), totally different listings across the nation with the same photos.

I saw a 15 year old documentary on rolling back dashboards, Jaguar had, at the time, some of the hardest digital dashes to crack. And that was on the late XJ40. I believe the X100 had very tough dashes to crack (or should I say... hack?).

mcbeefsteak... good work, Dr. Sherlock! I had no idea what to think... if the pictures were higher res I could maybe see the badging, I did notice however that the badge on the back is a standard looking XKR badge. Maybe this car is wearing a rare Sport Pkg I don't know about.

mcbeefsteak 11-09-2011 04:37 PM

Thanks Ian. I googled the VIN and dug through Google's cache of docs. Reminds me of an old joke -

Know the difference between love and the internet?

The internet is forever :)

govatos 11-09-2011 04:43 PM

randyb...it is fraud in my opinion. If you use stock photos, you should say so. Otherwise, people have the right to assume that the photos are of the car being sold and reflect its condition.

The Coupe 11-09-2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by govatos (Post 427392)
randyb...it is fraud in my opinion. If you use stock photos, you should say so. Otherwise, people have the right to assume that the photos are of the car being sold and reflect its condition.

I agree with this 100%.

mcbeefsteak 11-09-2011 07:47 PM

Posted pics of the 100 package
 
Took pics of the 100 package after work tonight, created an album here:

Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum - mcbeefsteak's Album: What makes an XKR 100?

Jaguar press release here, describing it:

http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/xkr/xkjr100.pdf

Wayne 11-09-2011 09:02 PM

It looks like a 100, the the gear shift knob is not from a 100 it should be leather not wood, that's the only thing that doesn't look right to me.

Ipc838 11-09-2011 11:45 PM

Thanks Jack,

The car in the ad actually looks like an XKR-100. I'm willing to bet, though, something is a little off. I keep seeing cars with odd histories (like my XJ, for example) with the wrong gearshift knob. Mine should've had a black leather one, but it instead has the same wood one as the car in this ad did.

This makes 2 Limited Edition 100's I've seen on the market that looked dangerous. I once saw an XJR-100 for $10,000, 22k miles, and a slvg. title. This XKR-100 has had the clock turned back, or been dealt with by mechanics who can't read odometers, but report mileage anyway.

The XKR-100 is so beautiful... I love the Coupe too.

mcbeefsteak 11-10-2011 04:36 AM

Glad to do it, I have been needing to take those pics for a while. When I was researching my car, had a hard time finding pics like that for the R-100.

My brother is a really smart dude who owned an indie Jag lot (Silvey Motors) for ten years in Austin. He knows Jags like I know my own kids. I asked him about rolling the odo. He replied:

"Depends on the year. On CAN-BUS cars (V-8 cars) the computer records the miles, so replacing the computer with one that has less miles recorded will do this. But, being a computer and is programmable, someone with the hardware (PDU and PECUS) and the software (usually dealer proprietary Worldwide Diagnostic System (WDS)) can code the modules and update vehicle software. The major instrument pack on the XKS's are programmable (module is part of the cluster), or to check for compatibility if a used one is being used as a replacement (with lower miles), the VCATS label on the floor of the trunk has the part number needed to accomplish the swap. As there is a campagin on the clusters, taking an old one and reflowing the bad solder point on the back can also give you a cluster with different milage.
SEE:
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...patibility.pdf
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...%20failure.pdf
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...ID%20block.pdf
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...93%20PECUS.pdf"

JgaXkr 11-10-2011 05:19 AM

Vehicle Details

VIN: DA41B42P A28646 Reg Number:
Distance At Last Claim: 35010 Miles
Description: XKR 100 COUPE (USA) 2002 MY
Dispatched Date: 22-Feb-2002 CSO Number: 303673
Sold Date: 12-Apr-2002 Sold By: 05708 - THE COLLECTION



Seller ID: *****1540

Paint: Anthracite Trim Color: Charcoal


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