We we didn't buy a Jaguar XE
#21
That is a very nice list of cars. Very diverse though. Looks like you were not looking for a small fast sedan like me. You just wanted the car that would "click on right buttons".
Both Jaguar and Alfa have new money flowing in. They should offer nice portfolio in a year or two. My only issue is newer generation engines. It is becoming harder and harder to find an engine with a character.
You would not face that issue with Aston Martin though.
Both Jaguar and Alfa have new money flowing in. They should offer nice portfolio in a year or two. My only issue is newer generation engines. It is becoming harder and harder to find an engine with a character.
You would not face that issue with Aston Martin though.
#22
Alfa Stelvio or Jaguar F Pace as our S60 replacement? Some nice cars coming on the market and Jaguar beat FCA to punch in both the SUV and mid size sports sedan. Sergio was too slow to execute.
#23
You are right, I agree with your points about engineering. For me, it is just the way car drives.
I also like to think that I support an "underdog" brand with my purchase. I am tired of BMW, Audi, MB. We need more brands (Jaguar, Alfa Romeo) and more competition which benefits everyone.
As for the trims. Jaguar offers R-Sport which is the top of the line in the US. That would probably compare to S trim in Europe, no?
I also like to think that I support an "underdog" brand with my purchase. I am tired of BMW, Audi, MB. We need more brands (Jaguar, Alfa Romeo) and more competition which benefits everyone.
As for the trims. Jaguar offers R-Sport which is the top of the line in the US. That would probably compare to S trim in Europe, no?
I can't speak for the S (which has Alcantra seats), but with the the Portfolio trim I get Windsor leather seats with herringbone pattern perforations with a better blend of colours for the entire interior. It may not sound much but it does make a big difference to the perception of the inside of the car. Or at least it did to me. The point I was making in my previous post was that maybe it would have the same effect on those who are not taken by the R-Sport interior.
I do wonder why JLR don't ship Portfolio and S trim cars to the US. The S trim is shipped to Mexico, apparently, although maybe that is just to **** Trump off.
#27
I am a big fan of the XE. looks like a fantastic car for the money. don't think "entry level luxo" car but instead...mid sized sports sedan. has a fantastic chassis so I am told.
I am looking to add a 4 door sport sedan early next year and have been holding out for the alfa romeo giulia QF. I hope it really arrives as they have been promising. I will not wait too much longer however.
I am looking to add a 4 door sport sedan early next year and have been holding out for the alfa romeo giulia QF. I hope it really arrives as they have been promising. I will not wait too much longer however.
#30
I was in a rush to buy a car, so the Alfa wasn't going to happen in time. I had a trade-in that made it more complicated. Now that the XE is leased, the next car I will have a lot more flexibility. I really like an '05+ Arnage... That or an Aston may be my next car unless Jaguar or Alfa really have something inspiring. Depends what we replace my better half's car with as well. Her S60 lease ends next January...
Last edited by anoop; 11-18-2016 at 01:49 PM.
#31
XE seats are more comfortable for sure. A little harder, but in a good way. Most comfortable Jaguar seat I have owned to date. Volvo seats are comfy FWIW; not knocking them either.
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#33
Modern Jaguars have the look that kills, until you open the door...
That's why I'm keeping my leather-and-wood XJ8 indefinitely.
#34
I drove C300 Sport the other day. That I4 2.0L Turbo should be one of the most uninspiring, lazy engine I've ever driven.
If you go for C class, make sure its C450 or C43 AMG.
I would say new Audi A4 is a good contender. Amazing interior, great tech, relatively good engine (I4 does 5.8sec 0.60) and minimalistic look.
If you go for C class, make sure its C450 or C43 AMG.
I would say new Audi A4 is a good contender. Amazing interior, great tech, relatively good engine (I4 does 5.8sec 0.60) and minimalistic look.
#35
I'm starting to wonder how long gas cars will be around. If the Bolt is any indication, the majority of new car purchases could be electric some time within the next 10 years, probably at close to 10 years. Once we have cars with a 300 mile range, sales of gas cars will significantly slow down. I expect we will see that range in the next 2-3 years. Then another 2-3 years to bring costs down.
#36
I'm starting to wonder how long gas cars will be around. If the Bolt is any indication, the majority of new car purchases could be electric some time within the next 10 years, probably at close to 10 years. Once we have cars with a 300 mile range, sales of gas cars will significantly slow down. I expect we will see that range in the next 2-3 years. Then another 2-3 years to bring costs down.
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#38
Also, maybe it takes more than 10 years, IDK, but if you have a car that can run 300-400 miles on a charge and can charge to 80% within 10 min or less at a "service station", what is the problem? It's not much different than the gas/diesel. If one is only driving around town, one may never need to go to a service station.
I used to be skeptic, but after reading about the Bolt, I think I am now a believer that this technology is ready for mainstream.
Hybrids bring the worst of both -- they're heavier than their gas counterparts and they require both mechanical maintenance (oil changes) and expensive batteries and charging gear (for plugin hybrid). They may be great for the transition, but I'd rather have pure gas or pure electric.
http://gizmodo.com/you-might-not-abl...y-a-1780468580
Last edited by anoop; 11-19-2016 at 04:55 PM.
#39
It is all politics. The oil business is so big, it will take much more than 10 years to go electric.
Look at top 20 largest corporations in the world. Several are oil and petroleum products. They have several times more lobbyists that electric/solar technology.
Jaguar will be offering new EV in 2018. That would be very interesting. I would not mind XE having a nice torquey electric motor along with V6.
Look at top 20 largest corporations in the world. Several are oil and petroleum products. They have several times more lobbyists that electric/solar technology.
Jaguar will be offering new EV in 2018. That would be very interesting. I would not mind XE having a nice torquey electric motor along with V6.
#40
0-60 in 4 seconds. Not too shabby.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/jaguar/...-la-motor-show
New Jaguar I-Pace set to get SVR treatment | Auto Express
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/jaguar/...-la-motor-show
New Jaguar I-Pace set to get SVR treatment | Auto Express
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