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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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I want to lower my STR but don't want to ruin the ride. It would appear I have two choices either the Mina or H&R HR-29300.

The Mina are around $499 and I have sourced a set of H&R HR-29300 for $219.

Anyone installed either?
How difficult is it to swap them out?
Any negative issues?
Ride quality?
Do I need new struts?
Do I need to get a new alignment?
Do ya have a good lookin' sister of legal age?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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I have a set of the Mina Gallery springs installed. I actually had the dealer install the springs. You will definitely need to align the car after installing either springs.
The ride has not suffered but the front is a bit higher than the rear. I would purchase the H&R springs.
I believe the front drop is 1.4" and the rear is 1.3" for the H&R springs. The Mina springs have a drop of 1.2" both front and rear.
That is a great price for the H&R springs. It is almost $100 cheaper than I have found.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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How does this affect CATS?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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I have been told that the CATS is not affected.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Really? I won't do it because of the roads in Canada but otherwise I'd be worried that it would affect the handling with CATS.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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I ordered a set of H&R 29300 Sport Springs for $219.20 + $41.75 shipping. They are coming on a Fedex camel and should be in Oroville, WA within a week. I drive down and clear Canada Customs myself (gotta pay the pr*cks 12%). Fabulous drive through wine country (stop for tastings) and pick up a couple of bottles (sometimes cases) on the way back.

I am planning on doing the swap myself and then getting an alignment. I will let ya know how it went. If anyone is interested where I got 'em I will post once I know they are definitely in route. I ordered them from a dealer but they are being shipped by the manufacturer.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Keep us posted. I am very interested in the springs at that price.
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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The H&R Sport Suspension Springs arrived last Friday. They are the proper model number 29300 for the STR. Made in Germany.

Here is the link where I purchased them for $219US dollars:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...Rear:%201.3%20

I will be installing them this Saturday if my son-in-law and I don't get too hammered on Friday night. We're gonna team on this one as he and my daughter will be here for a 3 day visit. I told my daughter that if they get divorced I'm keeping him. She always laughs - I'm never quite sure whether I'm serious or not. Hmmm...
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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We finished the installation yesterday in six hours. Not the easiest job on jack stands but doable. Hoist would have made it easier. Took it for a short test drive last night and it drove flawlessly. No adverse affects on the ride, handling greatly improved and the STR benefits by a much better stance.

Take it in next week for a complete wheel alignment. It needed a toe in adjustment per a TSB for excessive wear on inside tire front. Kill two birds with one C note. If you want to do this don't hesitate as I don't know how many kits they got left for the STR at that price.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Any before and after pics?
 
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Old May 26, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Cool Alignment Competed...

I had the 4-wheel alignment done today. Toe-in was out both front and back - now right on factory specs. Camber is set just outside of min-max specs. Castor is set just outside of min-max specs but tracks perfectly with no steering wheel pull.

I am pleased with the outcome. The function of the F1.4 and R1.3 drop provides better tracking, cornering and improved steering response. The form provides a better stance and flat looks right. No excess air space around the upper tire between wheel opening and tire.

I was concerned that I would ruin the ride and was delighted that it turned out better than expected. Barely a noticeable difference in ride comfort and/or road noise. Oh, it sits dead level. Doesn't look like it sh*t itself as with the Mina springs.

I'll get around to some pics in the next few days...
 

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Old May 27, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Thats some funny ish--thanks for the follow up I knew those mina gallery springs were 2 much, 500 bucks for springs, thanks for the post, any problems with the cats?
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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PS who can set camber and toe end, can a regular shop do the adjustment.
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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The cats have had a good and solid workout and they work just fine. Any good alignment shop can do the alignment.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Do you happen 2 have any pointers on shocks for the STR, ones that work with the CATS system? THe dealer wants like 350$ for the fronts and 450$ for the rear, crazy money, have any leads on something a little more gentle on the pockets? P>S> I will be ordering a pair of those springs regardless.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Do you happen 2 have any pointers on shocks for the STR, ones that work with the CATS system? THe dealer wants like 350$ for the fronts and 450$ for the rear, crazy money, have any leads on something a little more gentle on the pockets? P>S> I will be ordering a pair of those springs regardless.
Check if they work with the CATS system:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,7584

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,7556
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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Good lookin my brother, appreciate the info and they do work with the CATS saved me over 800 bucks.
 
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When you installed the H&R springs, did you install the Caster/Camber bolt kit?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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When you installed the H&R springs, did you install the Caster/Camber bolt kit?
No. Tell me more...

What does this kit do for me?

MOOG Part # K80061 {Caster Camber Cam Bolt} Frt Susp; adjustment range from -1-1/2 to +1-1/2 Deg.

As I mentioned the tech could not get the caster/camber within the min/max range. Does this provide more adjustment?
 

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Originally Posted by searanch
No. Tell me more...

What does this kit do for me?

MOOG Part # K80061 {Caster Camber Cam Bolt} Frt Susp; adjustment range from -1-1/2 to +1-1/2 Deg.

As I mentioned the tech could not get the caster/camber within the min/max range. Does this provide more adjustment?
Yes, I believe it provides more adjustment. I suspect this kit is similar to the kit Mercedes has, which is commonly called "crash bolts." On the Benz, there is virtually no adjustment, and this is a problem after accidents. Hence, the inexpensive crash bolt kit for more adjustment.

On my last slammed CLK, I used a KMAC kit, which was a pain to install, but had plenty of adjustment. I don't know if KMAC makes a Jaguar kit or not. I need to check.
 
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