Originally Posted by Unhingd
(Post 1810681)
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Flywheel ...............$1651 ........$ 990 Clutch kit......... ...... 517......... 310 (Gen 4) T.O. bearing (hyd.) .. 191.......... 114 You gotta be careful. Some of the dealers are still selling the gen 1 clutch through their online channels. Has anyone NOT been able to get a clutch replacement under warranty? I’m definitely going to try and get it to slip but am worried my lack of experience with the car will be detrimental to that testing. We’ll see. |
Originally Posted by Unhingd
(Post 1810677)
Don't know.. I'm still on Gen 2 and it is still holding in there after 17k miles and a highly tuned engine.
--- My Gen2 clutch already RIP. Taking it appart and looking at part - heat damage and scorching at flywheel and glazing on the clutch. I suspect it can't handle track conditions: frequent redline shifts and trail braking (accelerator and mild braking input at the same time). Subjectively, third gen clutch is lighter than second gen. I suspect, but yet to confirm, that it will likely act more like first gen clutch (e.g. slip when pushed). |
Originally Posted by Unhingd
(Post 1810681)
Clutch kit......... ...... 517......... 310 (Gen 4)
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Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1810748)
Good to know, honestly I was expecting it to be more.
Has anyone NOT been able to get a clutch replacement under warranty? I’m definitely going to try and get it to slip but am worried my lack of experience with the car will be detrimental to that testing. We’ll see. |
Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1810570)
Isn't the 3rd generation OEM clutch good though? Or does that one have issues too?
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Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 1810859)
There is Gen 4 clutch? Great. Here we go again. Please post part numbers in The Clutch Thread.
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Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1810748)
Good to know, honestly I was expecting it to be more.
Has anyone NOT been able to get a clutch replacement under warranty? I’m definitely going to try and get it to slip but am worried my lack of experience with the car will be detrimental to that testing. We’ll see. |
Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 1810858)
You are taking it too easy, driving slow in a fast lane with a blinker on... :P Your accelerator pedal will leave you for a better man if you don't give it some floor time now and then.
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Took the car for a drive today, it’s hard to tell if anything’s off since it is so different from a Miata. But it makes some fantastic noise! I couldn’t get the clutch to slip but didn’t get it on the highway either, just city streets. Still, it seemed strong through the 1-2-3 shifts.
If I do end up buying it, is it worthwhile to stop by the jaguar dealer and have them update the firmware? I have no idea what version it is running, but guessing it is an older version based on the minimal usage/service. EDIT: Also, have any of you come from a Miata? How do you think the two compare? |
Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1811122)
But it makes some fantastic noise!
... If I do end up buying it, is it worthwhile to stop by the jaguar dealer and have them update the firmware? |
Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 1811184)
If they apply patches, your car will become a lot more quiet.
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Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1811208)
What!? Why would they do that??
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Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 1811598)
Emissions.
Is there a list of all updates that are out and what they do? |
I just took my 2016 S MT in for its first service. I got the stereo system software update and it made a big difference in the quality of the sound system, I would recommend that one for sure.
The exhaust note didn't change at all after the service, but I don't think they did any other software changes. I have noticed that the exhaust pops and crackles have improved over time. I've only got about 900 miles on the car, but it definitely sounds better than when I first bought it. I've not had any problems with my clutch yet. My VIN is 32xxx so I may have the updated version, not sure I think you'll like the car, I've really loved mine so far |
Originally Posted by approx
(Post 1811122)
EDIT: Also, have any of you come from a Miata? How do you think the two compare?
You simply cannot compare a 2300 pound vehicle (if that) to the F-Type. Acceleration is nowhere close and there is a valid argument that the Miata is going to be more nimble by virtue of the light weight. Others with an NC or ND may have some other opinions now that Mazda tried to turn the Miata into a luxobarge. I looked at the ND and would have taken the Spider over the ND...the Spider came closer to matching the fun factor of the NA. I haven't kicked the '91 BRG out of the garage, but it is a car for its own purposes... |
Originally Posted by Clayton
(Post 1811969)
I just took my 2016 S MT in for its first service. I got the stereo system software update and it made a big difference in the quality of the sound system, I would recommend that one for sure.
The exhaust note didn't change at all after the service, but I don't think they did any other software changes. I have noticed that the exhaust pops and crackles have improved over time. I've only got about 900 miles on the car, but it definitely sounds better than when I first bought it. I've not had any problems with my clutch yet. My VIN is 32xxx so I may have the updated version, not sure I think you'll like the car, I've really loved mine so far |
Originally Posted by mbelanger
(Post 1811991)
There is no comparison other than both are RWD manual tranny two-seaters, at least in stock form. Someone with a Monster Miata might offer a different comparison. That being said, I should offer the caveat that my primary experience is as an NA owner that has now owned it for better than 15 years.
You simply cannot compare a 2300 pound vehicle (if that) to the F-Type. Acceleration is nowhere close and there is a valid argument that the Miata is going to be more nimble by virtue of the light weight. Others with an NC or ND may have some other opinions now that Mazda tried to turn the Miata into a luxobarge. I looked at the ND and would have taken the Spider over the ND...the Spider came closer to matching the fun factor of the NA. I haven't kicked the '91 BRG out of the garage, but it is a car for its own purposes... It's hard for me to make the comparison because I've owned the Mazdaspeed for 8 years now, and I'm so used to it... it's like a well-worn glove vs breaking in a new one. I have to get used to the Jag before I can really make a good comparison. Well, other than it seems like acceleration is similar. |
My local Jag service manager quoted me his book price of $1300 for clutch replacement (I too was quantifying the downside if I had to or wanted to replace outside of warranty).
I thought this was a reasonable number given the price I paid for the car, the car is new with no aftermarket parts or any deep experience anywhere replacing these clutches. |
$1300? That's it? That makes me a lot less worried about buying a 2016 used MT.
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This is just clutch. According to procedure you also need updated flywheel.
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