Looking at a used MT 2016 on Monday...
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Looking at a used MT 2016 on Monday...
I'm going to take a look at a used 2016 F-Type S MT on Monday, just wondering what I should look out for. It's got 5k miles on it and is for sale by a non-Jaguar dealer.
I've already been talking to them, the local Jaguar dealer said they had no records of service. They don't know what version of the clutch it has (vin is 31XXX). If it has version 1 or 2, is that something that I can just take it to the dealer to have replaced immediately, or do I have to wait until it starts failing?
Also, I was wondering about the software version. I read that the audio system can have some issues on older versions of the software. How do I check what version it is updated to? And is it a simple process to update to the latest version?
What else should I look out for?
I've already been talking to them, the local Jaguar dealer said they had no records of service. They don't know what version of the clutch it has (vin is 31XXX). If it has version 1 or 2, is that something that I can just take it to the dealer to have replaced immediately, or do I have to wait until it starts failing?
Also, I was wondering about the software version. I read that the audio system can have some issues on older versions of the software. How do I check what version it is updated to? And is it a simple process to update to the latest version?
What else should I look out for?
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Unless you have a relationship with a Jaguar dealer, they will want you to show that it is slipping. Some Gen1 clutches don't slip, especially if you don't push the car.
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I'm going to take a look at a used 2016 F-Type S MT on Monday, just wondering what I should look out for. It's got 5k miles on it and is for sale by a non-Jaguar dealer.
I've already been talking to them, the local Jaguar dealer said they had no records of service. They don't know what version of the clutch it has (vin is 31XXX). If it has version 1 or 2, is that something that I can just take it to the dealer to have replaced immediately, or do I have to wait until it starts failing?
Also, I was wondering about the software version. I read that the audio system can have some issues on older versions of the software. How do I check what version it is updated to? And is it a simple process to update to the latest version?
What else should I look out for?
I've already been talking to them, the local Jaguar dealer said they had no records of service. They don't know what version of the clutch it has (vin is 31XXX). If it has version 1 or 2, is that something that I can just take it to the dealer to have replaced immediately, or do I have to wait until it starts failing?
Also, I was wondering about the software version. I read that the audio system can have some issues on older versions of the software. How do I check what version it is updated to? And is it a simple process to update to the latest version?
What else should I look out for?
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Seems if the dealer ran the VIN and nothing comes up then no warranty work has been performed.
As others have said the clutch issue is pretty obvious if it is indeed bad - try the downshift from 4th to 3rd at about 60 or 65 mph while hammering it. If it doesn't slip your probably ok, but you should have plenty of warranty left with a 2016 if something does fail.
As others have said the clutch issue is pretty obvious if it is indeed bad - try the downshift from 4th to 3rd at about 60 or 65 mph while hammering it. If it doesn't slip your probably ok, but you should have plenty of warranty left with a 2016 if something does fail.
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K31xxx may be late enough to have a decent clutch. What was the production date? If after September/October 2015 it might be ok. The only way to know would be to do a hot 0-60 run. If the clutch is bad, you'll have no trouble feeling/smelling the slip during the 1st-2nd shift.
Concur that putting it through its paces should answer the question pretty quick, and with a used (ie. broken in) model, it should be easier to do and not feel queasy about.
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Yes, but you might still end up fighting to get it fixed. Especially as you purchased your car from non-dealer, any dealer you will approach will not have established relationship with you.
a. Clutch is a wear and tear item, they can easily blame you or PO for this
b. Clutch is slipping, not broken, the can easily argue that it is working as intended
c. F-type MT are rare, this would be probably first clutch job for tech doing it
a. Clutch is a wear and tear item, they can easily blame you or PO for this
b. Clutch is slipping, not broken, the can easily argue that it is working as intended
c. F-type MT are rare, this would be probably first clutch job for tech doing it
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Yes, but you might still end up fighting to get it fixed. Especially as you purchased your car from non-dealer, any dealer you will approach will not have established relationship with you.
a. Clutch is a wear and tear item, they can easily blame you or PO for this
b. Clutch is slipping, not broken, the can easily argue that it is working as intended
c. F-type MT are rare, this would be probably first clutch job for tech doing it
a. Clutch is a wear and tear item, they can easily blame you or PO for this
b. Clutch is slipping, not broken, the can easily argue that it is working as intended
c. F-type MT are rare, this would be probably first clutch job for tech doing it
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That is the challenge indeed - especially if you’re like me and want to be able to drop the top. The convertible MT combo is almost impossible to find. Only 6 for sale nationwide right now.
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No aftermarket clutches readily available. I have, however, lined up a performance clutch manufacturer who is willing to custom build one for a reasonable price(less than OEM), but it will require supplying them with a brand new clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel to take the dimensions. The first time my clutch fails out-of-warranty, I will undertake that exercise. It will involve eating the 20% restocking charge on all the OEM parts, but then the pattern is available for all of us.
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No aftermarket clutches readily available. I have, however, lined up a performance clutch manufacturer who is willing to custom build one for a reasonable price(less than OEM), but it will require supplying them with a brand new clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel to take the dimensions. The first time my clutch fails out-of-warranty, I will undertake that exercise. It will involve eating the 20% restocking charge on all the OEM parts, but then the pattern is available for all of us.
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.............................Dealer........ Online
Flywheel ...............$1651 ........$ 990
Clutch kit......... ...... 517......... 310 (Gen 4)
T.O. bearing (hyd.) .. 191.......... 114
You gotta be careful. Some of the dealers are still selling the gen 1 clutch through their online channels.
Last edited by Unhingd; 12-17-2017 at 09:22 PM.