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razorstorm 04-23-2017 09:24 PM

Replacing Calipers?
 
I just got a used 2014 FType V8S, and it came with black calipers. I really like the looks of the red calipers, and was thinking of changing them out.

So my questions:

Is repainting a better option vs replacing with new calipers?
Any links to some good red calipers for the ftype? Either OEM ones or other.

Stohlen 04-23-2017 09:45 PM

Repainting is certainly cheaper. Aftermarket options don't exist at the moment.

OzXFR 04-23-2017 09:55 PM

Why would you even think about replacing the calipers?
That would cost $thousands, or at least many $hundreds, when you can repaint them yourself for peanuts, less than $10, all you need is a single rattle can of caliper paint.
The "in between" solution, still costings $hundreds, is to remove your calipers and send them to a shop to be powder coated.

JBzXJ40 04-23-2017 10:30 PM

Yea I agree, you'd be better off removing them and having them painted by yourself, or at a paint shop. We've done that many times here in NZ for customers, same thing with the wheels. Cheaper to take the ones fitted off to get painted rather than buying the painted ones.


The only thing with the calipers if the retaining clip on the outside wont have the Jaguar script, were as the genuine ones do, but you could buy that part from dealer if you are particular.

razorstorm 04-23-2017 10:54 PM

Good suggestions everyone. I guess I'll go with the repainting solution.

Is it just as simple as buying some caliper paints, taking them off, spraying on the paint, wait for dry, and then reassembling?

Anything I should watch out for? Any gotchas?

Also any recommendations on which brand of caliper paints are good?

Thanks everyone

OzXFR 04-23-2017 11:20 PM

No need to take the calipers off, just paint them in place, I've done it dozens of times with never a problem.
Clean the calipers first, I use el cheapo spray can degreaser first then turps on a soft rag.
Then mask off the rotors around each side of the caliper, no need to go overboard.
Then spray on two maybe three light coats of caliper paint, leaving at least 20 minutes and preferably an hour between coats. Keep each coat light, too heavy and the paint will run.
Then let dry for at least 24 hours before you apply decals/stickers and/or clear coat.
If you use clear coat it must be the exact same type of paint (and preferably the same brand) as the base/colour coat, otherwise you risk dissolving the base colour! I use Dupli Colour, never had a problem with it.
Once the paint is dry clean any overspray off the brake rotors with turps and a rag, no need to be too fussy as any small amounts left behind will be removed by the action of the brakes.

Here's a pic of the old XFR a few days after I painted the calipers and whacked "R" decals on:


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fbafc4d244.jpg

And a pic of the F-Type after I whacked new "Jaguar" decals on:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...aa1d1bb906.jpg

These are the "Jaguar" decals I used:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JAGUAR-HI...IAAOSwbqpT8x-V

DirtyAir 04-24-2017 12:42 AM

Has anyone used the G2 paint system? Gets pretty good reviews and has some cool colors:


Holy F type 04-25-2017 12:54 PM

How hard is it to remove the calipers yourself and paint them? I've done brake jobs on normal cars, is the f type similar? I don't wanna risk anything and at the same time I trust myself more than any place that paints calipers

ShaunPA 04-25-2017 01:03 PM

Just mask it off and paint them on the car.

Holy F type 04-25-2017 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by ShaunPA (Post 1668760)
Just mask it off and paint them on the car.

On a lift, right? Would I be able to reach every area of the caliper evenly?

Buckingham 04-25-2017 03:09 PM

There are also red or yellow caliper covers, logoed, that just clamp over existing calipers on EBay.

Holy F type 04-25-2017 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Buckingham (Post 1668852)
There are also red or yellow caliper covers, logoed, that just clamp over existing calipers on EBay.

I track my car and that would make my brakes melt, even on daily use I would heavily recommend never putting anything like that over your calipers. extremely dangerous

OzXFR 04-25-2017 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Holy F type (Post 1668817)
On a lift, right? Would I be able to reach every area of the caliper evenly?

No need to do it on a lift, flat on the ground is perfectly OK.
You can still reach with a spray can every part of the caliper that can be seen with the wheels fitted.

Prophizee 04-26-2017 12:33 PM

Which paint would you recommend to spray paint calipers or is it better to Brush on color

ShaunPA 04-26-2017 02:46 PM

G2 has been the brand to go to. not sure if that's changed.

razorstorm 04-26-2017 03:19 PM

I just ordered the G2 brush on paints. For brush on, does the advice still stand that we don't have to take off the calipers?

ShaunPA 04-26-2017 03:38 PM

just pull the wheels mask and paint

Prophizee 04-26-2017 04:20 PM

What color would you guys go with for the calipers. Im thinking white or yellow. Idk why yellow but I think it might look good https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d538db64d6.jpg

OzXFR 04-26-2017 06:24 PM

Never seen them done in white, that would be novel, but I reckon yellow would be better, maybe even the golden yellow you see on some Porsches.

Prophizee 04-26-2017 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by OzXFR (Post 1669828)
Never seen them done in white, that would be novel, but I reckon yellow would be better, maybe even the golden yellow you see on some Porsches.

hmmmm I agree white is a little Jersey Guido but I thought it would look good with the interior...But yellow is def the front runner any more suggestions

ShaunPA 04-27-2017 09:08 AM

i don't know about white but a silver would look great.

obviously a different exterior color but similar interior.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d2d484e01f.jpg

akc70 04-27-2017 09:43 AM

When I painted my other cars calipers, I made sure to clean them really good with brake cleaner, than I took a small steel brush and got any gloss of the old paint. I wiped it down again and put on two coats and it came out great. Prep is the key with it.

Buckingham 04-27-2017 06:13 PM

Caliper paint
 
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It seems most people paint the anti-rattle clip as well as the rest of the caliper. I think I will leave the clip unpainted. I prefer the contrast

Prophizee 04-28-2017 08:00 AM

So ordered the G2 silver kit. Hopefully it's hear next week so I can get the calipers painted before the weekend. I also ordered the high temp vinyl Jaguar sticker, hopefully it turns out well. Hired the wife to help attempt the job with me lol she is an artist so I am hoping she can paint the calipers while I watch and do all the light work lol
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razorstorm 04-28-2017 11:34 AM

Can she come paint mine too? :P

Prophizee 04-28-2017 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by razorstorm (Post 1671214)
Can she come paint mine too? :P

It might be tough but Ill see what i can do

Buckingham 04-28-2017 06:49 PM

You can all sing:
Painting the rotors red
We're painting the rotors red
We dare not stop or waste a drop
So let the paint be spread

Prophizee 05-02-2017 11:30 PM

So started the project today. I'll post pics tomorrow. Quick insight the G2 paint is good but it does leave some paint brush marks. Also you can definitely tell that it has been painted. Meaning it doesn't look like brembos. Maybe it was my prep work but I spent a good 40 min on each caliper. Once it's finished drying I'll get some photos up. Last but not least I bought two kits 1 for the front and one for the rear. I found that the 3m break cleaner works much better then the one supplied by G2.

Hottar1943 05-03-2017 12:52 AM

Your car looks perfect just the way it is. Classy. I wouldn't change a thing. Beautiful car.

Prophizee 05-03-2017 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Hottar1943 (Post 1674756)
Your car looks perfect just the way it is. Classy. I wouldn't change a thing. Beautiful car.

Thanks brother really appreciate it. The problem is that originally the car came with red brakes then the first owner painted them black and the red is bleeding trough . So that's why this idea even came into the equation

Prophizee 05-03-2017 11:56 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ca1208c78d.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ce817b1d5b.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fd6cab1db4.jpg
Like I said better then expected but not the best

Prophizee 05-03-2017 11:58 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ca1208c78d.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ce817b1d5b.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fd6cab1db4.jpg
Like I said better then expected but not the best. I used the bigger Jaguar sticker thought it looked more dominant and hid some imperfections

Hottar1943 05-05-2017 12:39 AM

Silver calipers
 
Great choice on the silver calipers. Less is more on such a beautiful car. I just bought my first Jaguar.

Prophizee 05-05-2017 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Hottar1943 (Post 1676260)
Great choice on the silver calipers. Less is more on such a beautiful car. I just bought my first Jaguar.

thanks I agree and congrats on the purchase. So what are the details on your new ride

Schwabe 05-05-2017 08:25 AM

Weren't the red performance calipers standard on the V8S? Why are they black?

Unhingd 05-05-2017 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Schwabe (Post 1676422)
Weren't the red performance calipers standard on the V8S? Why are they black?

The high performance were available in both colors. The super performance only available in red.

Hottar1943 05-05-2017 08:46 AM

I sold my 1970 Pontiac GTO, black on black, 4-speed ram air 400 cubic inch so I could buy my 2010 Jaguar XK in Indigo Blue with only 14,00 miles on it. Then I powdercoated the stock 19" Caravela wheels an indigo blue color. They don't exactly match, but they blend pretty nicely I think. ( I hope ) I have been driving a 2004 BMW M3 for 13 years. I have wanted a Jaguar since I was 14 years old when my step dad drove a 1960 Mark 2 Jag with wire wheels. Man, was it a beauty !!!

Hottar1943 05-05-2017 08:46 AM

14,000 miles

Prophizee 05-05-2017 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Schwabe (Post 1676422)
Weren't the red performance calipers standard on the V8S? Why are they black?

they were red but dealership painted them black due to customer request. Which imho was an awful choice but that's just me

Buckingham 05-06-2017 05:44 PM

G2 Red Paint
 
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Just finished painting front calipers with G 2 red paint. I did three coats. Waiting for it to dry before I replace the anti-rattle springs which I left unpainted. These will be replaced with any brake job and probably not with the same color red anyway. I will do the rears on another day. I apportioned 40% for the rears. I converted the 3.5 fl ozs of paint and 1/2 fl oz of reactant to ccs and poured 40% of that into graduated tubes from my lab. I will use that for the rears which are much smaller. The remainder was enough to do three coats on the fronts and then some. Love the glossy sheen. Red calipers were a $1650 option. The G2 paint was $40. I bought two foam paint brushes, one about two inches wide for the wide areas and one quarter inch for the detail work. No hairs or brush marks. I don't see how anyone can get a good result using the tiny hair brush that is supplied. I jacked up the car using a floor jack and a grooved rubber disc both for the jack and jack stand using the pinch weld track behind the triangular marker. No damage to any plastic or metal peices.


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