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JagAlb 11-11-2017 12:14 PM

I like what I have - A RWD R! Guilty for not having enough time to enjoy it. Winter came with less sunny days, after a super super busy summer and autumn with almost no time to drive my F Type. Only 1850 km on the dashboard, in its first 5 months... my garage is happier than I am in fact...

Stohlen 11-11-2017 12:14 PM

Also, I loveeeee how people constantly mention RWD requiring more driver skill as a reason it is better. How pathetic that you have to buy a car based around how much skill it takes to drive so you can stroke your own ego.

Stohlen 11-11-2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by 15FTypeR (Post 1791060)
Slightly OT: There's no harm in putting Michelins just on the back when I get done destroying the Pirellis, right? I'd change the front to Michelin when they're worn out.

No harm. Since you have a RWD it really only matters that they are the same cross car. AWD would be a different story.

bjg625 11-11-2017 12:53 PM

All of my TT's were Quattro and they were fun. My SLK55 was RWD and great in a straight line a little challenging turning. My F Type S is of course RWD and fun to slide before the computer saves you. Both of our Maserati Ghibli"s have been RWD, and I prefer them if for weight if nothing else. I think active suspension is what is important. SLK didn't offer it and the Maserati has it.

RawwR 11-11-2017 01:54 PM

Not many can say they've OWNED both which is different than test driving both. In my humble opinion AWD is faster.

Andy2017 11-11-2017 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Stohlen (Post 1791259)
Who's getting a 6 year 100k warranty?

Typo - 5 year 100k warranty.

Burt Gummer 11-11-2017 08:03 PM

04:30

Safe vs Fun.


Chawumba 11-11-2017 08:49 PM

OK, no need to re-litigate this all every time its brought up in a post. It is a legendary question to which there is no one right answer. But calling the RWD vs. AWD a choice between "tail happy vs. thrown back in your seat" or "hell yes AWD is better" is at best a gross oversimplification, at worst is flat out wrong.

Video is good, and probably provides the best answer to the OP's original question (Is the RWD more fun?).

Only thing I will add is that from my experience, switching to the michelin tires from the pirelli's really improves traction to the point that (at least on dry roads) spinning rear tires is only going to happen if you are trying to make it happen.

Andy2017 11-11-2017 09:19 PM

No need to relitigate it every time its brought up again - even in the same thread. But,


Originally Posted by Chawumba (Post 1791504)
But calling the RWD vs. AWD a choice between "tail happy vs. thrown back in your seat" or "hell yes AWD is better" is at best a gross oversimplification, at worst is flat out wrong.

Says the man with an old Type R RWD V8.

Now here is an example of “gross oversimplification” or B.S. at it best:


Originally Posted by Chawumba (Post 1791504)
1) Was primarily developed for the litigious USA market since apparently drivers are lacking in skill and only understand binary throttle inputs. RWD R's still available elsewhere.
2) Weighs 180lbs more on a car that is already too heavy
3) Lifts the engine (and importantly all that weight) 1.5 inches higher,
4) Has a higher hoodline/bulge, which is a visibility distraction from inside, almost ruins the look from the outside, and reduces trackability since no one can see the front corners of the car
5) subjectively diminishes fun and driver skill requirements for driving said sports car.
6) more moving parts to break
7) apparant torque limiting off line to protect said 4 wheel drive system.

We get it. Your model/year is the best and no new model/version, regardless of the updates/technological advancements, will ever come close to yours cause JAG screwed up moving forward with the AWD and we should all be envious of yours and bummed with the newer version at the same time.

My binary biased throttle input limited brain capacity and inexperienced driving skill set are my weakness. Thank God to Jag for the AWD with that extra 1.5 inch rise that compensates for it - wish I could see the damn road though and I wish it looked as awesome as yours.

If Jag hadn’t of come out with the AWD I would have had to purchase a Prius.

Chawumba 11-11-2017 09:28 PM

Why the hate?

Usually the point of forums like this is to exchange information and share our passion for vehicles. My earlier post was in response to your comment which implied that the S models or R models with RWD are vastly inferior to the AWD V8 models, and that their owners are not even qualified to address the topic. I was hoping to help you understand there are legitimate reasons for someone to prefer a model of the F-Type besides what you purchased.

Donzi38ZXXX 11-12-2017 06:53 AM

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Ended up Purchasing a New 2017 "R" Italian Racing Red and absolutely Love it. And the Dealer agreed to a great offer. $110K sticker $78K SOLD! Last 2017 just sitting on the Showroom Floor.

Donzi38ZXXX 11-12-2017 06:59 AM

Oh, and because the Car was technically put in service in April of 2017, and used as a Demo (243 miles) they extended the 5 yr/$60,000 mile Warranty to 6 yr (from April 2017) 100,000 mile Warranty.

Chawumba 11-12-2017 09:45 AM

Congrats, great looking car. That is a fantastic price for effectively a new vehicle. I always thought the used R represented the best value in performance/looks, but your deal takes it to the next level. Enjoy.

sts-v 11-12-2017 09:54 AM

I feel much better about my V8S RWD now. hehe

Andy2017 11-12-2017 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Chawumba (Post 1791509)
Why the hate?

Usually the point of forums like this is to exchange information and share our passion for vehicles. My earlier post was in response to your comment which implied that the S models or R models with RWD are vastly inferior to the AWD V8 models, and that their owners are not even qualified to address the topic. I was hoping to help you understand there are legitimate reasons for someone to prefer a model of the F-Type besides what you purchased.

No hate. Just keeping it real. More of your consistent B.S. - for example, “...vastly inferior...”

Never said that. Get it?

Suaro 11-12-2017 01:40 PM

Wow. What a tender issue. With other cars one can be more analytical. Normally since I don’t need AWD for climate reason I go with RWD. Lighter, better mileage, fewer parts etc. But with the F you are dealing with emotions not analysis. It’s what experience you enjoy more. Drive both a little harder than usual and go with your smile.

BOulderGT3 11-12-2017 03:18 PM

I think people really over state how tail happy and spooky a RWD R is. Other than cold weather or snow, if you're hitting the electronic nannies on the street you're driving too fast. The engine is so linear it's very easy to modulate. The P Zeros aren't my favorite and I'll switch to MIch's but full tread P Zeros are great in the rain too.

I've got lot's of track time and I wouldn't consider this a scary car at the limits compared to a Viper, GT3 a Z06 with Run Flats and a few others.

I don't mean this in a defensive way at all. both platforms are good. It's just a you pick 'em scenario.

BOulderGT3 11-12-2017 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi38ZXXX (Post 1791655)
Ended up Purchasing a New 2017 "R" Italian Racing Red and absolutely Love it. And the Dealer agreed to a great offer. $110K sticker $78K SOLD! Last 2017 just sitting on the Showroom Floor.

Well that's a steal! Congratulations.

Donzi38ZXXX 11-12-2017 03:36 PM

Thanks for all the comments on this. After doing extensive research for Clean Low Mileage 2015 "R"s. And considering the prices for them, I just could not resist buying New with the price I got. I never got an opportunity to drive the RWD. But I am sure the RWD is fun as hell! Thanks Again.

Stohlen 11-12-2017 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by BOulderGT3 (Post 1791894)
I think people really over state how tail happy and spooky a RWD R is. Other than cold weather or snow, if you're hitting the electronic nannies on the street you're driving too fast.

I also think people who own RWD's don't realize how much the AWD lets you get sideways, and maybe they wouldn't down it so much if they experience that.


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