2010 XF 18" wheels on 2002 X-Type
 

Hello Forum,

New here and have cannot BELIEVE the amount of resources and information on here. I would've never sold my 04 x-type.

Question is...

Recently purchased a set of 18x8.5 2010 Jaguar XF wheels model CYGNUS and was wondering if this is a complete bolt on?

I've read the offset, lug pattern, etc are the same but should it fit fine?

Maybe someone here knows alittle more than I do, when it comes to this :)

Thank You!
Rick

Ricky, if the offset is the same, then you should have no problems. One member just tried on the 19" XF wheels on his car and could ride around with them. You may find that the outside edge is going to be a little close to the edge of the wheel well, but that is going to be about it. Now, this is assuming you have a proper sidewall height too.

I have stock ride height (for now).. :)

I was thinking about lowering it with maybe some eibach's just to give it that stance..

I used to have an 04 3.0 with 20"s... I destroyed the fenders..

Hopefully I'll be safe with this set up.

Thanks for the reply...

It will never work...
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Just kidding. Thermo, actually had the opposite concern. These wheels are too far in with an offset of 49mm and a somewhat wide 8.5" width. You need 5mm spacers in front to not rub the inner fenders at full steering crank. The rear is fine without spacing. In the photos above, I have 20mm front an 25mm rear spacers installed to push them out closer to the fenders.

If you tore your fenders up with 20s, then you either had the wrong tire, wrong offset, or did not roll your fenders. A 225/30/20 is within 2/10s of an inch the factory dimensions of the 18" wheels that come on these cars.

To answer your question, yes you can run these. Easy. Just get 5mm spacers for at least the front and put nothing bigger than 225/40/18 on them for tires. I know the 235 or 245 will be tempting for you and the tire guy selling you tires (especially if he owns a Ford truck, Mustang or similar vehicle) and you'll think your car will handle better with them or whatever, but don't do it. 225/40/18 - trust me. :D

Also when you go to bolt on your wheels with spacers, you'll be thinking "boy, I don't know if there is enough thread on the studs here?" Well, there is. You need 7 full turns and you'll get between 7 and 8 with 5mm spacers between the Cygnus and your brake rotors. Just be sure to get reputable spacers from H&R or have the guys at www.motorsport-tech.com make you a set (specs 5mm, PCD 5x108, center bore 63.4mm).

You'll also be able to slam your car as low as you want with the small 5mm spacers. Even with air ride fully aired out (lowered about 4+ inches compared to stock) my car didn't rub with these. Go as low as you want.

Merry Christmas and post pics when done.

GOT THE WHEELS, TIRES and SPRINGS!!!
 

EXEXPAT or anyone who knows.

I bought the rims. They are 18" x 8.5 and look AMAZING. Tires are Falken 225/40/18 and lowering springs are H&R.

I CANNOT wait to slam it and slap the wheels on. I'll post up the pics when I do.

I have a question and need answerssss. I'm looking to space the wheel out. Kind of how EXEXPAT has it but I don't want it rubbing on fender which looks like he doesn't rub. How safe am I in mm? 15 or 20? I have the cygnus xf wheels. I want almost a flush look. Also would I have to trim down the lugs?

Let me know!
Thanks!

Given your tires, you should be safe with a 20mm spacer in front and back. It won't be completely flush, but it will be close enough. If it does rub (which I doubt since H&R springs won't lower you too much), then you may need to roll the rear fenders ever so slightly at the rear of the arch where it meets the back bumper.

Spacers will need to be custom-ordered from motorsport-tech.com and you will not need to modify lugs. You actually need to use your factory lugs with those wheels. Have them send you low profile lug nuts to attach the spacers to the car and wheels attach to the spacers (10 lugs total per corner - 5 to attach spacer and 5 factory to attach wheel to spacer).

EXEXPAT thanks for the info.

I think I read somewhere you told another member about cutting the front coil half where it doesn't pig tail? Would that lower it alittle bit more?

Yes. You need to be careful when cutting springs with pigtails since they won't fit if you do it wrong. I think the standard height for Eibach/H&R makes the front a tad too high. The rear sits perfect and the car is level, but the fender gap in front made me wish for at least another 1/2" lower with springs. Half a coil might give you half an inch, maybe 3/8, but an improvement overall - even though it doesn't sound like much, it is a mile in lowering terms.

Jeremy,

It's done. I just purchased a 20mm spacer from motorsport-tech. When I receive it, I am slammin it, putting on the wheels, and taking pics. I really hope it doesn't rub. I will also be cutting half a coil to lower the front too for an even slam. Do they sell camber kits for the wear? or is 2" not much to worry about?

Awesome, looking forward to pics. The spacers will be there in about 2 weeks (probably) and you should be able to get springs in the same or less time. Shoot for end of February to get everything done.

Jag is getting done today!!!
 

Ok peeps,

The Jag is getting the Wheels (2010 XF 18" with 225/45/18), slamming it with H&R springs (cutting half the first coil to level the drop), and still waiting for the 20mm spacer adapters. However I'm gonna post pics when its done.

In regards to tire wear,

Should I get an alignment? I read somewhere to also get the TOE adjusted since there is not camber in the x-type?

Should I be ok with less than 2" in the front and 1.5" in the back?

I'll post before tonight :)

Yes, you will need an alignment once it is lowered. Edit: why did you go for such huge tires? That will raise the car another almost half an inch. Should have gone for 225/40/18 (stock size) or smaller.

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Picturesssss!!!!!!!!!!
 

SOOO..

Here are the pics.... It sits perfect. I wish it could go lower, but this is the safest drop (driveways, entering shopping centers, speed bumps).

Jeremy, the tires are 225/40/18 sorry I messed up.

Car rides excellent even with the front half coil being cut.

I'll post the pics when I add the spacers :)

Cool. I bet they will settle half an inch or so in the next week or two. Looks good - now you just need the Mina or factory 2005 Sport chin spoiler ;)

1 step ahead of ya, I bought it off ebay.. but like the MINA one more.. I might black out all the chrome and side lights...

I'll see you're chin spoiler acquisition and raise you a headlight restoration kit (or what I use - the Meguiar's PowerBall with Meg's PlastX polish). :D

Restoration kit could help!.

Its actually the headlight from the inside. I bought some $20 blue headlights off ebay and they burnt out in 24 hours!

Now I put the regular ones back and they don't work, not sure what I fried :(. Hopefully I didn't kill it too bad.

So I had the whole back piece off there and it snowed so moisture went inside.

Nice! Looks good!

Those rims do look good! Now you'll need to polish those headlight lens :)

I have 18 inch Arubas on mine, but I prefer these XF rims better.

Hello!

Well I put the 20mm spacers and sadly they rub. The back doesn't rub much only the inner plastic but the front fender got some. I'm probably going to take out the front spacers and leave the back.

Also tires wearing a little much on the inside....going to get an alignment now that the springs have settled.

I'll update on that as well..

Eastwood fender roller and heat gun will solve that. I wouldn't give up on the spacers yet.

where did you find the side part by the signal indicator.

Cheers, Jeremy where did you find the side part by the signal indicator.

This thread is awesome...exexpat strikes again!

Car sits nice and it's screaming for some more black.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...ine=1400563590

I prefer my Melbourne BBS that are OEM fit but those look nice.

I know this is an old thread, but I searched for, and used the information from it, and figure others will too.

To add this, there is no way that a 20mm spacer can be used with the factory fenders (or wings as we call them in the UK). I just tried this today with the Cygnus wheels (18"x8.5"), a 20mm spacer, and factory sports suspension. All was fine (and it looked good, though perhaps just a touch to much poke) until I hit a speed hump at 20mph, and shaved some tread blocks of my near new Michelin on the left hand front- the tyre is a 225/40/18.

The fender lip was a little warped at the leading edge near the front bumper join.

I will post up pictures later.

If you want to run a 20mm spacer on the front, you most definitely need to whip out the Eastwood fender roller.... and thats just on the factory sports suspension... I still have factory camber, so if you're lower than the factory sports suspension, I suspect you'd need additional negative camber.

There is also no way that a 20mm spacer would fit on the rear of the estate, unless again there was some significant camber- now I do have the adjustable upper rear arm (Volvo/Mazda 3 style) made by Hard Race installed, so I can crank up the negative camber in the rear... but I don't want the crap tire wear, so may stick to a 5mm spacer in the rear..

thats been my experience too with the 20mm front spacer, and thats with factory sports suspension (as mentioned above- only when on full deflection- i.e when I went over a speed hump at 20mph)

Agreed; any more than 5mm on the front, and rolled fenders are a must (using 225/40/18s perhaps with your 215/35s you may have gotten away with it; though I note you've since sold the car).

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