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Alexis Towns 05-15-2019 08:25 PM

ECM Vs. PCM
 
I have a 2004 Jaguar x-type 3.0 V6 I need a replacement PCM but when I look for the part all that pops up is ECM. Are these parts the same thing or no?

Dell Gailey 05-15-2019 08:28 PM

A PCM or powertrain control module is different from an ECM or engine or electronic control module, even though most people believe the two are the same. Most modern or newer models only have a PCM, which controls all the engine functions, where the ECM only controlled certain parts of the engine.

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motorcarman 05-15-2019 09:31 PM

Jaguar/Ford refers to the PCM as a POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE.
The S-Type (when introduced) was a Ford thing and Ford did NOT want to pay licensing for a CAN bus.
They created a PTEC (PowerTrain Electronic Control) to contain the ECM/TCM in ONE unit and used a Ford gearbox (5R55N).

The acronym PCM refers to a combination ECM/TCM (covering the entire Engine/Transmission POWERTRAIN). No network is necessary because BOTH are controlled by a single unit!!

The introduction of the MY2002.5 S-Type did use a CAN bus because the ZF6HP26 needed one!!!!

X200 uses a PCM and the X202 uses a separate ECM/TCM.

As far as I know, the X200 was the ONLY Jaguar model to refer to the module as a PCM.

Hope this helps to clear things a little.

bob

Alexis Towns 05-15-2019 10:20 PM

What does x200 and x202 refer too?

Alexis Towns 05-15-2019 10:31 PM

Thank you!

Dell Gailey 05-15-2019 11:15 PM

Model numbers, ours are x400

JagV8 05-16-2019 02:19 AM

For this car I think you can use PCM & ECM as the same.

I believe PCM is a more standard term.

Cars are required to provide OBD via CAN nowadays (er, since 2006/2008 or so, depends a bit on jurisdiction) so it was just a matter of time on that.

GGG 05-16-2019 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Alexis Towns (Post 2071297)
What does x200 and x202 refer too?

Factory model codes.

Originally these were prefix XJ (short for Experimental Jaguar) but the prefix was changed to X under Ford ownership from 1990.

X200 : S-Type Saloon, 1998
X202 : S-Type Saloon, V8

X400 : X-Type Saloon, 2001
X400R : facelift X-Type, 2004
X407 : facelift X-Type (abandoned)

Graham

car5car 05-16-2019 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by motorcarman (Post 2071274)

PCM refers to a combination ECM/TCM (covering the entire Engine/Transmission POWERTRAIN).

That is it.
If you need one from junk yard, you can call it whatever, they will take your money anyway.


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