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matl 05-21-2009 11:42 AM

humming noise at higher speeds, is it the TC?
 
Hi guys my 02 has 90k on the clock, i had the TC rebuilt just outta warranty with 50+k on it and lately i'm hearing a whining gearlike hum when going above 40mph, it does it when i accelerate but when off the gas it stops... i'm praying my TC isnt acting up again. Ive read all the posts about changing out the fluids and i want to give that a shot, i see that the kit that Wild Bill makes gets good reviews but i dont want to drive the car to worsen things and cant be without a car till it arrives. Is there another way to do the change? can i tilt the car to the the fluid levels high enough? thanks

christo 05-21-2009 12:52 PM

Getting the fluid out is the easy part. It's getting it back in that is tricky. The car would have to be sitting on its side but then the fluid may just leak out the vent at the top. So it's pointless - gravity plays a big part here. Maybe he can over noght the kit to you?

mohrd 05-21-2009 01:57 PM

Do you know if you have the orginal propshaft? If the hum seems like it's coming from the rear, there was an old TSB about the propshaft being out of balance causing a hum from the rear diff at higher speeds. Solution was added weight to the rear diff case. If it's more central, perhaps the propshaft center bearing. More towards the front, then how did your TC sound before it crapped out the first time?

matl 05-21-2009 04:58 PM

wow that much of an angle huh, i sent Bill a PM but no response yet. problem is i have a lot of driving to do this weekend so i was hoping to change it tomorrow. When i had it rebuilt a few years back it was becasue the bearing was shredded and it sounded like a grinding noise. Much different from this noise. Its def not coming from the rear, it sounds more front/center, there are no vibrations just this mild gearlike whine when i push the gas... Either way i should change the fuild and see if that helps.

What did people do prior to this kit? i saw an old post where someone used a ball valve, i think i could probably pick up those parts at my local shop and recreate that but what happens when you unscrew it? i assume you'll loose a lot of fluid before you can get it sealed again?

Sevren 05-21-2009 06:29 PM

I don't want to rain your parade, but if the sound comes from your TC, it's too late to change the fluid.

mohrd 05-21-2009 11:28 PM

Matl, are you near a dealership? An experienced Jag tech should go for a spin with you.

matl 05-21-2009 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by mohrd (Post 116432)
Matl, are you near a dealership? An experienced Jag tech should go for a spin with you.

yeah not too far, are they willing to do that without taking the car in and carging for labor? I'm always skeptical though, when i had it rebuilt jag originally wanted to replace it for 3k+. I'll try to see if i can capture the sound on video and post it.

matl 05-22-2009 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by matl (Post 116381)

What did people do prior to this kit? i saw an old post where someone used a ball valve, i think i could probably pick up those parts at my local shop and recreate that but what happens when you unscrew it? i assume you'll loose a lot of fluid before you can get it sealed again?

can anyone shed some light on this? i would like to do the flush and i still havent heard back from wild bill thanks

Sevren 05-22-2009 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by matl (Post 116435)
yeah not too far, are they willing to do that without taking the car in and carging for labor? I'm always skeptical though, when i had it rebuilt jag originally wanted to replace it for 3k+. I'll try to see if i can capture the sound on video and post it.

It is doubtful they actually rebuilt your TC. The X-Type TC is "Sealed for Life", and it is not meant to be rebuilt, even by your dealer's mechanics.

matl 05-23-2009 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Sevren (Post 116604)
It is doubtful they actually rebuilt your TC. The X-Type TC is "Sealed for Life", and it is not meant to be rebuilt, even by your dealer's mechanics.

A local shop did it that i've was going to for years, they took it appart and replaced the bearings with aftermarket bearins since jag doesnt sell them. unfortunately they have moved and are no long near me.

sethtec 06-18-2009 06:37 AM

Cost for TC repair?
 
Mine: 2005 3.0 Sport

I have a clunk when shifting into reverse, my indie thinks it might be the TC.. What say you all? If so, what is the going rate for repair/replacement?

Finally, on the sport/non sport topic, mine is a sport, and I like it a lot except the ROUGH ride! Is this what we all deal with? It came with 18's, and I found some factory 16's with new Conti TouringPro tires, and it really helped, but it is still harsh. I am thinking of installing the non-sport struts...
Any input welcome.
Thanks!

Wild Bill 06-19-2009 10:04 PM

TC Noise & Fluid Change
 
Matl,

I have not received any PM's or emails from you.

I suggest that you drain & refill the TC fluid as a first step. However, I do not recommend the "tilt-the-car" or "guess-that's-the-right-amount" fluid change. Too much is a problem as is too little fluid.

Email me at wbeau@yahoo.com and I'll be glad to help you with y0our TC fluid change. Another thing you might want to do is grease the center bearing on the pilot shaft using a grease needle in a hand pump grease gun. Cheap insurance against a failed ilot shaft bearing

Wild Bill


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