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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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I recently noticed my belts were squeaking everytime I started the car. It didn't bother me because it went away after 30 seconds but then it seemed to grow in intensity over time. Finally changed the 2 belts ( AC and ALT) because when I would turn off the car you could smell burning rubber. Now I Changed them and it stopped for about a week. Now that its down to 30 degrees it seems to be squeaking very badly like everytime I step on the gas till its warmed up fully. No burning rubber smell yet. Has anyone had this issue?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:53 AM
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Are you sure it's the belts?

If re-tensioning and/or replacing the belts doesn't do the trick you may have become a memeber of the Harmonic Balancer Separation Club". I gained membership just recently myself :-)

Look for my "Squawk Noise" thread from a couple weeks ago


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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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Is that part expensive to replace or a pain in the *** to get off because its got to be one of the two with these cars lol
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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check your A/C ideler pulley.mine sqweeled alot and the belts were not that old, and i was in a lazy mood so i just shot them with belt dressing,without much sucess.so i just lived with it till the A,C belt flew off.found a new pulley on ebay for $85,ouch!.found a good substitute for under $20.contact me and i'll give you the part # if that is the problem...steve.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Why not post the part number so we can all benefit in the future?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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I second Doug,s statement sounds like harmonic balancer they are very expensive to buy new
I had mine re-bonded cost 250$ then labour to refit
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeingtravel95
Is that part expensive to replace or a pain in the *** to get off because its got to be one of the two with these cars lol

Not too hard to replace....about the same as doing the same task on any other car. I spent a total of a couple hours on the job. Would've been faster but I smashed my finger and spent 20 minutes hopping around with my hand between my knees and cursing up a storm.

Re-bonding seems to typically run $200 or so from Damper Doctors or similar but I found a local guy who charges only $110 and did a wonderful job. Much better than $1000 for a new part. Of course, the car was down for a few days.

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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Talked to my local pep boys and they quoted me a price of 239.00 including tax but I have to supply the new part. Doesn't seem steep compared to what I've seen on this website. Is this a good price to replace the harmonic balancer
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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the A/C ideler pulley box is in the barn,and i forgot to get the part #.i'll try to get # and post it...steve.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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No offense (I seem to say that alot!) I wouldn't let Pep-boys do it if it were $2.39. For a professional shop at $80 an hour I'd expect it to be about a 2 hour job. Remember, you want people working on your Jaguar that KNOW Jaguars and are skilled professionals...they should be able to get in and out and be fairly familiar with the job as the've probably performed it a time or two on X300's.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeingtravel95
Talked to my local pep boys and they quoted me a price of 239.00 including tax but I have to supply the new part. Doesn't seem steep compared to what I've seen on this website. Is this a good price to replace the harmonic balancer


Doesn't sound *un*reasonable.

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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JTsmks
No offense (I seem to say that alot!) I wouldn't let Pep-boys do it if it were $2.39. For a professional shop at $80 an hour I'd expect it to be about a 2 hour job. Remember, you want people working on your Jaguar that KNOW Jaguars and are skilled professionals...they should be able to get in and out and be fairly familiar with the job as the've probably performed it a time or two on X300's.




No offense (grin) and I would normally agree, but.....

If a mechanic can sucessfully replace the balancer on a '67 Mustang or '82 Chevy pickup or just about any other plain-as-mud car, he can do it on an X300 six cylinder Jag.

I just did this job a couple weeks ago. There's really nothing complicated about it.

Well....OK...I'll retract that partially. A non-Jag guy might not know how to de-tension the drive belts. But he ougha be able to figure it out easily enough :-)

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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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Pretty much what Doug said. It's a damper.

There are X number of ASE's around and not everyone can or wants to work at a Jaguar dealership.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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Hey Doug How do get the thing off?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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Hey Doug How do get the thing off?

Remove fan assembly
Slacken drive belts
Remove center bolt*
Install pulley/balancer removal tool (garden variety type)
Remove balancer

My balancer has a removable pulley for the supercharger belt that others may not have.

* Long breaker bar and big socket....1-5/16ths as I recall. I used the torque of the starter to break the bolt loose. An impact gun is more typically used but mine is too big....meaning I'd have to remove the radiator for clearance. No thanks :-)


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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Awesome. Sounds easy enough. my poor thing is screaming at me. when i get the cchance to fix im just gonna send it out to get fixed.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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Well how much is the new balancer? I wouldn't mind getting a refurbished one. Or at least sending my part out...but I kind of want the car accessible just in case of an emergency instead of MIA
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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About $1000 for a new one


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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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I got fooled thinking my harmonic balancer was bad and almost pulled it off until I tested it. Testing is easy and I don't know why this hasn't caught on. I have explained it several times on this forum evey time this subject comes up.

Test it first::::: Put a small dob of white paint ( I use white-out) on the timing wheel, and both of the pully flanges. The dobs have to be in a line with each other. If dots stay lined up balancer is OK. If balancer is bad they will rotate with respect to each other. Easy and could save a lot of work and expense.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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ok guys,heres the part # for A/C idle pulley that i bought at auto zone[duralast 231018].i had the same problem with sqeaks,turns out it was A/C pulley.i would much rather inspect it than a high dollar damper pulley.if its the damper than you can go on line and find services to rebuild it,i belong to a chrysler club and there is a place that offers that service.PLEASE do yourself a favor.loosen the A/C idler pulley,than wiggle and rotate.chances are there lies your problem...steve.
 
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