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DaveO 11-05-2015 10:48 AM

Heater pump brushes size?
 
Howdy All,
I'm noticing the heater isn't getting too warm ('02 XJ8), and after doing some searches here, see that the heater pump brushes wearing out is a strong candidate for the cause. I would like to have new ones handy before I start working on and disable the car...Does anyone know the heater pump brush dimensions and/or a source for them here in the US (e-bay seller maybe?) ?

Also, are there any tips,tricks, or cautions when backflushing the heater core (matrix) and associated valves and hoses that I should take care to not screw up?

Thanks a Bunch for any guidance!

jimforrest (uk) 11-05-2015 05:23 PM

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Some pics for you Dave -

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The pic shows the system looking through the firewall. The plumbing works as follows -

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If you do rebuild the pump you won't find the correct brushes. They are 12mm x 5mm x 5mm with braided tails. You might find near equivalents but you'll have to file them down.

However, the tails aren't needed. The current draw is so small that you can cut the braid off of the existing brushes and solder it to the brushholder. Power will get to the brush via the casing and spring.



The armature won't come out completely because of the bearing. If you take it off measure EXACTLY where it is on the shaft as it doesn't fit against a shoulder. Get it wrong and the pump will be seized on re-assembly. To fit the brushes prise open the 'flaps' on the end of the brushholder and slide the new brush in followed by the spring. Then fold the flaps back. If you test the motor prior to refitting make sure you get the polarity right. The little diode between the brushes melts to a dead short if you get it wrong!

jimforrest (uk) 11-05-2015 05:24 PM

Sorry - I didn't say that you can get the 12mm x 5mm x 5mm brushes off of you know where, but without the braids.

DaveO 11-06-2015 04:16 AM

Thanks for the brush size,tips, and your time JimForrest! The pic and schematic are even more accurate than the one I was looking at... :icon_clapclap:

kab9 12-09-2023 04:08 PM

brushes for heater pump
 

Originally Posted by DaveO (Post 1342339)
Howdy All,
I'm noticing the heater isn't getting too warm ('02 XJ8), and after doing some searches here, see that the heater pump brushes wearing out is a strong candidate for the cause. I would like to have new ones handy before I start working on and disable the car...Does anyone know the heater pump brush dimensions and/or a source for them here in the US (e-bay seller maybe?) ?

Also, are there any tips,tricks, or cautions when backflushing the heater core (matrix) and associated valves and hoses that I should take care to not screw up?

Thanks a Bunch for any guidance!

I know this is an old thread, but I recently had to replace the brushes on my pump and I'm sure others are still facing the problem. I found Standard Ignition FX65 at my local auto parts store in stock. The width on these is about right, but I had to grind down the length and height to get them to fit, and clip the ring connectors off the ends of the wires. Worked great.

kab9 12-09-2023 04:09 PM

I should add that my car is an XK8, but it's the same pump as on the XJ8.

Stu 1986 12-10-2023 03:19 AM

I’ve also found the brushes available on eBay albeit not quite the same size as original ones. I’ve got a few of these pumps kicking around in various stages of brush degradation, I should just bulk buy a load of new brushes and make myself a little stash of ready to go ones.


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