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XJ6Jagz 10-17-2010 12:33 PM

High Beam Help Please!
 
Have an 85 XJ6 Vanden Plas. Recently my high beams started acting up and wouldnt engage right away, would have to keep flicking it until it came on, and would be a B**** to turn off. Right now they wont turn on. I have no idea what i could do to fix it. Help please? :icon_doh:

bbarcher 10-17-2010 12:44 PM

Might be a bad headlight relay. The relay is a silver box mounted on the left front inner fender.

Read this checklist: http://www.jag-lovers.org/newbies/se...s_iii_xj6.html

Click here for diagrams

Click here for more diagrams

Good luck!

Kalahari 10-18-2010 05:21 AM

Also check your fuses. I recently replaced a "bad" bulb only to find out the fuse and clips were to dirty to get power to the bulb.

bbarcher 10-18-2010 12:52 PM

Reading it over again today, if you have to fiddle with the switch that much, it might well be the switch itself. The contacts may be dirty inside the switch.

Also, found some more info about things that can go wrong inside the relay:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/lumps/tech...s/relays2b.htm

XJ6Jagz 10-23-2010 09:57 PM

Now my new problem with this, I can't seem to disassemble the steering column. :icon_smash:

Doug 11-02-2010 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by victorking (Post 263966)
CHECK your ballast and all wires? maybe it is cuz some of wires are loose

you can fix you ballast by relay harness so it can work steadily.

http://www.vvme.com/hid-relay-harnesses-c-20.html




A headlamp ballast? On a 80s vintage Jag? No.

Cheers
DD

Doug 11-02-2010 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by XJ6Jagz (Post 260011)
Now my new problem with this, I can't seem to disassemble the steering column. :icon_smash:



Do you mean the black plastic shrouds/covers? If so.....

There are three external screws to remove to lower cover. Once that's off, lokk *inside* the upper cover and you'll see two or three more holding the upper cover to the bracketry of the switches. Once all the screws are removed it's best to lower the column a bit to ease the job of wriggling the upper cover out. To lower the column simply loosen (don't remove) the two big nuts on the column bracket....you'll see 'em.

If you look closely at the dimmer switch you'll see a thin spring metal blade that completes a ground circuit when the lever is pulled back. Hard to explain but you'll see it. Anyhow, give it a few squirts of electrical contact cleaner.

I've fixed a couple of wonked-out high beams circuits this way.

Cheers
DD

DrDodge 11-05-2010 11:23 PM

These guys are on the right track. I had to replace my headlight relay recently because it like to stick in the "on" position after the switch was moved.

In my experience, moving parts fail first, so please don't rule out the switch as a culprit.

Jeff

tirekicker 11-06-2010 07:37 PM

I just switched the relay to solve this same problem. Very quick easy fix (in my case at least)

XJ6Jagz 11-13-2010 03:09 PM

So i have just got in from tinkering with the switch. Was quite a pain in the rump dealing with the steering column bolts, but in the end, sprayed it down with electrical cleaner, so far not working. Will let it sit for a while and try while driving.

pdog2000 11-21-2010 08:02 PM

Is the relay in the engine bay inner right fender ? Or do i have to take the fender body panel off to get to it....I bet it is the relay

bbarcher 11-22-2010 11:41 AM

Relay is on the left front inner fender, just ahead of the brake master cylinder.

http://12.153.160.115/images/catalog/full/C038616.jpg

pdog2000 11-22-2010 07:55 PM

Thanks so much bbarcher

CatLovr 11-30-2010 03:46 PM

I have a similar problem in that sometimes only the high beams will work, and when I use the stick to flick back to low beams there is no beams. I'll flick the stick back and forth numerous times and about the time I'm getting a little strobe sick the low beams will come on. Thanks Doug for steering column info, I'll have to do this too. Have one other problem (horn) also in steering column... another post.

bbarcher 12-02-2010 06:16 PM

I think ellen/victorking is talking about a HID conversion kit that your car does not have. It is a good idea to check for loose connections, that is basic. Make sure all bullet connectors are fitting tight, and use a wire brush to clean them when they are disconnected so the contact surfaces are nice metal on metal with no corrosion. Also, it is good to add a little dielectric grease to the terminals to protect them from oxidation. This applies to the headlamp bulb connection as well.

Once you take apart the column and the switch, it is pretty easy to see the contact surfaces and renew them by using something mildly abrasive to make the metal shiny again, use a bit of dielectric grease here too.

The HID person seems to think that we are talking about HID conversion, but I believe the people asking for help all have stock headlight systems.

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I wonder if the OP ever got things sorted?

XJ6Jagz 12-04-2010 02:06 AM

Sadly my beams are still not working, they are worse than before. I know its the switch, so i may end up replacing the whole turn signal/beam control.

johnwus83 07-11-2016 01:27 PM

XJ6Jagz please let us know how you resolve your headlight issue. I'm having the same issue. Downloaded and read several time the "check list" the guys are steering you to, but what do I know, I'm just a 245 pound gorilla, LOL

yarpos 07-11-2016 06:40 PM

Hi John

You may not have noticed but the thread was 6 years old, you will be lucky if the OP resurfaces after all that time.

What is your problem? no high beam? if no high beam please check if they work when you flash the headlights with the headlights off (daytime flash).

Let us know and we can help step you through finding it.


Just some basics about the headlight system:

The high beam/low beam switch does nothing more than send a short duration earth pulse to the headlight relay. All switching of power is done at the relay (power via the rotary dash switch for low beam, from hard wired sources for high beam). If you operate the lever and hear the relay clicking your problem is in the engine bay.

High beam and low beam are fused separately

Headlight fuse panel is notorious for poor connections. A good starting point is to remove all fuses, check them with a multimeter (they often can look good but be blown), clean the fuse retainers and add a little inward tension on them, clean or replace the fuses before reinstallation.

Another common problem is the earths near the headlights. They are also a candidate for cleaning up.

JagCad 07-12-2016 12:59 AM

One of my first lessons in Jaguar electrics was replacing the right out board seal beam when it went dark. Normaly works in other critters. Not here!!


Agree on the fuse and fuse box cleanup and electrical continuity verification. I removed mine from it's cage and cleaned the contacts behind. Grungy is an understatement. Much better response to lighting commands. At times they had been random combinations!!!


Side tracked on dash light fix. Band saw blade parted. I've new ones
but resist staying on the drive and idle wheels. Location n ot ultimate.... access limited...


Installed a CO detector and serviced the smoke detector. Simple tasks no longer simple... But, tested and done....


Carl


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