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o1xjr 04-17-2016 06:34 AM

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o1xjr 04-17-2016 06:56 AM

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o1xjr 04-17-2016 07:10 AM

Fireball returned in one piece!
 
Ready to go again in two weeks. My turn to drive.

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LnrB 04-17-2016 09:31 AM

What a Wonderful that looks like! Too bad you guys didn't have any fun!!
(';')

34by151 04-19-2016 11:58 PM

Results from the track day are in

Jag Forums wins class G :icon_dance-cpatch:

Results

New tyres and less boost for the Euro Day. Hoping to be back to low 60's per lap and hopefully breaking into the 50's

Cheers
34by151

o1xjr 04-20-2016 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by 34by151 (Post 1445699)
Results from the track day are in

Jag Forums wins class G :icon_dance-cpatch:

Results

New tyres and less boost for the Euro Day. Hoping to be back to low 60's per lap and hopefully breaking into the 50's

Cheers
34by151

Congratulations on the class win James. :icon_trophy:

All things considered the old XJ6 didn't do too bad against the XJR

34by151(James) 1.17.5 in the XJR and Dr Phill (Phill) 1.23.3 in th S1 XJ6.

Phill has thrown down a challenge for me at Euro Day now. Never going to beat my 1990 lap of 62 seconds in a 125cc Supercart but I have to try for a 1.23 lap now in Miss Fireball.

Grant Francis 04-20-2016 05:44 AM

Awesome.

LUV the Mini's, DAMN.

34by151 04-20-2016 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by o1xjr (Post 1445766)
Congratulations on the class win James. :icon_trophy:

All things considered the old XJ6 didn't do too bad against the XJR

34by151(James) 1.17.5 in the XJR and Dr Phill (Phill) 1.23.3 in th S1 XJ6.

Phill has thrown down a challenge for me at Euro Day now. Never going to beat my 1990 lap of 62 seconds in a 125cc Supercart but I have to try for a 1.23 lap now in Miss Fireball.

Thanks and yes the XJ6 went well

More power did not serve the lap times well considering I was doing 62-65 last time. Im changing the tune again for the euro day. Sub 60 is the goal but will be happy with a 62 again

I was not able to get the power down in the carousel, hungry and eastern loop. Computers kept getting the way cutting the ECU (gearbox protection)
Although drifting in hungry felt good, Im in need of new rear tyres as a result and new fronts from the ECU cuts

Cheers
34by151

o1xjr 04-20-2016 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by 34by151 (Post 1445774)
Thanks and yes the XJ6 went well

More power did not serve the lap times well considering I was doing 62-65 last time. Im changing the tune again for the euro day. Sub 60 is the goal but will be happy with a 62 again

I was not able to get the power down in the carousel, hungry and eastern loop. Computers kept getting the way cutting the ECU (gearbox protection)
Although drifting in hungry felt good, Im in need of new rear tyres as a result and new fronts from the ECU cuts

Cheers
34by151

As they say, Lakeside is a more grip,less power kind of track.
Last time out you were in my mirror every third or so lap, which would drop you right in the low 60's.
Hope to see that again next time out.

LnrB 04-20-2016 08:51 AM

Congratulations James!!
It looks like Jaguar wiped up the floor in all classes!
(';')

Dr Phill 04-20-2016 02:49 PM

Jag club day at Lakeside
 
Congratulations on the class win James, well done. As to my out come all I can say is I'm impressed, your turn next Clarke. 1:23 Lap time at an average of 63mph i'snt the easiest task in a 2 1/2 tone road car at a circuit like Lakeside.
Will be fun to watch.

34by151 04-20-2016 03:01 PM

1:23 is much better than I would have expected and if you compare the cars of the same age much better again

Well Done

Hey Phill, if Clark manages to better your time you can blame the new tyres!!!!

Chers
34by151

o1xjr 04-20-2016 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by LnrB (Post 1445846)
Congratulations James!!
It looks like Jaguar wiped up the floor in all classes!
(';')

Elinor, it was part of the 2016 National Jaguar Rally.
The other marques were there by invitation.


Originally Posted by Dr Phill (Post 1446062)
Congratulations on the class win James, well done. As to my out come all I can say is I'm impressed, your turn next Clarke. 1:23 Lap time at an average of 63mph i'snt the easiest task in a 2 1/2 tone road car at a circuit like Lakeside.
Will be fun to watch.

I'm impressed too Phill, I'm thinking my laps are going to be around the 1.30 mark.

Dr Phill 04-20-2016 04:08 PM

Clarke, you will go alright, remember its your car and you know it better than I do. just trust it and it will amaze you as it did me. James, I think the new tyres are booked for after the meet unless Clarke is keeping secrets from me.
GIVE IT SOME JANDAL

yarpos 04-21-2016 12:54 AM

That would be the fireproof Nomex Jandal specially built for hot racing conditions?

Had a look at the results. Surnames Leak and Greasley at a British car track day. You cant make this stuff up.

Looks like you had a great day. The new motor should be nicely bedded in now :-)

o1xjr 04-22-2016 03:28 AM

I finally got your race number sorted Phill, just a week late.
You know what that means, you gotta go out on the track again.


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Dr Phill 04-22-2016 02:19 PM

Always happy to get behind the wheel Clarke, just want to see you give it a crack first. You will be impressed what the old girl can do. Number looks good. Does it make it go faster.

34by151 04-22-2016 03:05 PM

Not sure if it goes faster but everyone will expect you do

Now if you do all the mods in Grand Torino that's another thing
Check the clip @ 1 min 30

But seriously best thing to do is shed as much weight from the car as you can.
A good place to start is empty the boot of the spares and tools, keep the fuel load as low as you can get away with.
The less HP you have the more effect removing weight will have

With 184hp and 2100kg your power to weight goes up a lot just getting it down to 2000kg. You will save 50kg just with a half full tank, probably another 50 with the spare and jack removed.

Cheers
34by151

o1xjr 04-23-2016 12:07 AM

Competitive, maybe just a little.
 
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While the Dr is away the the owner will play.

Looking for a way to squeeze the extra couple of mph out of the old girl I started digging around. There was a bit of slack in the throttle cable when not extended and still a few degrees of movement left in the throttle rod when peddle was flat to the floor.

So by removing the cable bracket and making it's mounting holes into slots it has given about 3-4mm more adjustment taking the slack out of the cable,now being able to use the full travel of the peddle. Also lost 1/2 of the freeplay in the peddle from idle.

So now the throttle rod is turning further, but not quite making it to the stop. This should equate to more acceleration therefore higher top speed down the straight if my theory is right.

After playing around here I thought I would revisit setting the mixtures and idle balance. So after a bit of adjusting all sounds good and idle is spot on 650 rpm in park and just a gnats dick under 600 rpm in drive.

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GGG 04-23-2016 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by o1xjr (Post 1447137)
I finally got your race number sorted ........

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After all the practice you've had sticking numbers all over your car for Off Topic photos, you should have been able to put it on straight! :icon_lol:

Graham

o1xjr 04-23-2016 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 1447860)
After all the practice you've had sticking numbers all over your car for Off Topic photos, you should have been able to put it on straight! :icon_lol:

Graham

Mine will be Graham, that was just a cardboard mock-up of Phill's.

o1xjr 04-30-2016 04:23 AM

My track day tomorrow, I don't see Dr Phill under the car prepping it meticulously like he did for his track day.
He did chamios it for me under supervision though.

Dr Phill 04-30-2016 04:35 AM

Clarke, now as your professional driver I thought all I had to do was turn up and drive.lol. I helped with the cleaning only to prove I'm still a good mate. This also is not to mention you give yourself an extra 10% throttle opening to try and give yourself the edge. It's ok but. I get another go tomorrow too, remember. Looking forward to seeing you give the car a little bit of tough love.

o1xjr 05-01-2016 03:08 AM

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Rain was the spoiler for the day, but I did get to do a 180 in front of a mob of fast Mini's and them watch scramble to go around me.

A session in the Blue Goose was better with a bit more traction. Thanks Paul for handing me your keys in very slippery conditions.

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More pics here....https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...2/#post1452834

JagCad 05-01-2016 08:59 AM

Racing in the rain. Even more fun!!!


The big ?. After the 180, did you keep the engine running? Or did you have to restart? One of the measurements or an amateur vs a pro?


!!!


Carl

o1xjr 05-01-2016 09:30 AM

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Kept it running, a lot easier in an auto. Just sat waiting for the rest of the field to pass by while facing the wrong way, then lit up the rears and spun around and finished our drift session. I did manage to keep it on the black stuff...more luck than ability I think.
The whole track was like a skid pan. Opposite lock all the way round except the one left hander that had some grip.

Drifting in Paul's Goose, Got to love a screaming V12 in second.

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yarpos 05-01-2016 04:56 PM

"Got to love a screaming V12 in second." a friend of mine calls that an Italian Tune Up :-) always good to blow out the cobwebs, thats my excuse anyway.

o1xjr 05-20-2016 10:58 PM

Uh-oh
 
Apparently Dr Phill couldn't control himself on the way home Lakeside raceway.


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Daf11e 05-21-2016 12:00 AM

Bloody hell.........nine klicks over and one point...doesn't seem fair. You'd think they'd give you a ten klick leeway!

o1xjr 05-21-2016 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Daf11e (Post 1466110)
Bloody hell.........nine klicks over and one point...doesn't seem fair. You'd think they'd give you a ten klick leeway!

A work mate of mine got booked at 84 in that tunnel, doesn't seem right since I was once told a new car coming into Australia only has to be within +/- 10% accuracy on the speedo to meet ADR's under the Motor Vehicle Standards Act.

Queensland recently lowered the tolerance on speeding offences, I believe in school zones they allow 2 km/h leeway according to someone I know who has a relative in the Road Policing Command.

Dr Phill 05-21-2016 05:45 PM

Thanks for the post Clarke, you know I was using the drive home as the warm down session. Still getting used to converting mph to kms. Oh well I've been a good boy for so long it had to happen eventually.

yarpos 05-21-2016 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by o1xjr (Post 1466118)
A work mate of mine got booked at 84 in that tunnel, doesn't seem right since I was once told a new car coming into Australia only has to be within +/- 10% accuracy on the speedo to meet ADR's under the Motor Vehicle Standards Act.

Queensland recently lowered the tolerance on speeding offences, I believe in school zones they allow 2 km/h leeway according to someone I know who has a relative in the Road Policing Command.

Most of those speedos are reading high though, never seen a modern car that reads real speed. My wifes Subie is way out 110 when doing 100 actual. My two 80s cars are pretty much spot on.

Dr Phils fine is what I pick up every year or two , the less than 10k over. I often get caught out by changes in Melbourne. I think I know the particular road but the speed limit has changed, and what I think I know over rides what is written in the signs in front of my face.

Looks like the leeway and fine structure is similar up there

o1xjr 05-26-2016 02:53 AM

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Dr Phill hooked up this cold air intake for me today, since I had the series 3 top panel on the radiator with the intake tube above the radiator. I picked up an air cleaner cover for $20 that we chopped to suit. Keeping the original with the stickers intact.

Got to be better than the original sucking hot air from behind the radiator.

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LnrB 05-26-2016 08:49 AM

Cool air intake. along with wrapping all the fuel lines in Thermo-Flex, seems to have done away with the vapor lock problem I've had with Nix every day the temperature is above 65F!

Logic does indeed dictate that air coming from Outside at ambient (whatever that may be) has Got to be better than superheated air in the engine compartment.

I think you'll like performance, Clarke, I certainly liked performance after Nix got one, and it will *Feel* stronger (dyno readings be hanged!). Nothing else much matters, does it.
(';')

JagCad 05-26-2016 09:28 AM

When I bought my 83, it had the little "snozzle" that allowed the ingestion of cool air. But, it was busted. that old brittle plastic thing.


As lumped, it does breathe hot engine bay air via a conical
after market filter. It has a wide four row cored brass radiator that
limits acess to a cool air intake modification. A really nice one
has been designed and created by past lumper, Bob Loftus.
But, the dryer is in the way non my car. Major redo of it's dormant
AC would be needed to accommodate that design. So, it isn't likely
to happen.


No worry, though, no fueling issues and plenty of power on tap.


Carl

Dr Phill 05-26-2016 05:56 PM

Its a proven fact that cool fresh air is so much better for performance than stale engine bay hot air. We will find out next time we feel the need to show "Fireball" some tough love and agression.

JagCad 05-27-2016 09:29 AM

Dr. Phil:


That air density thing...


Carl


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