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stellar-warior Mar 23, 2013 08:09 PM

replacing the distributor on my 86 xj6 series III
 
basically... where do I start, I've never done this. I have the new distributor, I got the air filter housing out of the way, I removed the cap leaving the sparkplug wires intact so when I'm done I can just snap it back on without worrying about the firing order.
I'm guessing I can just find tdc yank the old one out and put the new one in, it looks like it can only go in one way, but I don't want to break anything or throw the timing off. what is the proper procedure?

fredd60 Mar 25, 2013 04:31 AM

distributor
 
It has been a while since I did that, but I would mark the position of the distributor body to the block, and mark the position of the rotor button to the distributor. Is it spiral gear drive still?
Not that it has much to do with this, but Jaguar number the XK motors from the firewall end, caught me once.

vwtechnician Mar 25, 2013 04:49 PM

As fred said, mark the position of the housing and the rotor. There's a horseshoe shaped clamping plate bolted around the base, into the block with one bolt. The bolt is a little bit of a pain to get to and a little PB Blaster soak of the base of the distributor couldn't hurt if yours is as "one" with the block as mine was.

stellar-warior Mar 25, 2013 06:12 PM

thanks guys! i'll get on kit and let you know how it goes.

motorcarman Mar 25, 2013 08:41 PM

You will still need to set the timing. You cannot be sure that you will have the EXACT timing by just marking the dist. and putting the new one in.

It will probably start and run but the timing still needs to be set for proper operation.

bob gauff

stellar-warior Mar 26, 2013 05:34 PM

thanks for the advice, do you know what the proper timing is?

stellar-warior Mar 27, 2013 06:03 PM

well i got the old distributor off and the new one installed easily enough. I was careful to put the distributor and rotor back in the same position as well as the spark-plug wires, but alas she wont fire up, i'm sure its a timing issue. could anyone be kind enough to explain to me how to set the proper timing. sorry i'm not quite a mechanic, i learn fast and am somewhat handy, but just haven't been at this long and have a lot to learn, i appreciate any and all help greatly!

stellar-warior Mar 28, 2013 06:31 PM

ok, I figured out why its not starting, there is no spark. I have power at the coil but the wires don't go straight from the coil to the distributor there is a box between them they both plug into, and that seems to be where I am losing power, but I don't know what this part is or what it does. can I bypass and hook the distributor directly to the coil?

stellar-warior Mar 28, 2013 07:19 PM

I got it started! it fired up faster and easier than ever! I didn't even hear the starter engage. I just turned the key and VVVRRROOOMMMM!!!
I also looked and saw the part I was talking about is the electronic ignition amplifier, seems that was my problem all along, because I bypassed it and hooked directly up to the coil and bang!
my question now is this: should I order a new electronic ignition amplifier, if so what is the best one to get? also, what would be the effect of continuing to run straight off the coil?

anjum Mar 28, 2013 08:35 PM

Don't understand how this can work. Unless the distributor came off a series 2 or earlier with the contact points inside.??? But I'm prepared to be enlightened!!

I'm not familiar with the series 3 with electronic ignition but if it's similar to most other types it will have a hall/magnetic effect low current sensor in the distributor which triggers the external ignition module which provides a higher current pulse to the coil (-ve).

If it is a series 3 distributor then I wouldn't run it without the ignition amplifier.

Doug Mar 28, 2013 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by stellar-warior (Post 706359)
I got it started! it fired up faster and easier than ever! I didn't even hear the starter engage. I just turned the key and VVVRRROOOMMMM!!!
I also looked and saw the part I was talking about is the electronic ignition amplifier, seems that was my problem all along, because I bypassed it and hooked directly up to the coil and bang!
my question now is this: should I order a new electronic ignition amplifier, if so what is the best one to get? also, what would be the effect of continuing to run straight off the coil?



I'm a bit surprised as well. How exactly did you bypass the amp?

Anyhow, you can buy a complete amp new or used but in almost all cases it's the module inside that fails. It's a common GM module, Delco part number D1906. Easy to repace.

Cheers
DD

JagCad Mar 29, 2013 11:38 AM

Long distance guess. He jumped the ballast resistor, not the amplifier .

Good move, even if by accident!!!

stellar-warior Mar 29, 2013 11:57 AM

all I did was unplug the ignition amp from the coil and plug the distributer wires in their place on the coil. the distributer I am using is a pertronix aftermarket distributor designed for a series III
maybe the aftermarket distributor doesn't need the amp?

anjum Mar 29, 2013 02:23 PM

Ah! Mystery solved, Methinks! The Petronix distributors AFAIK have the amp built in. Is it pre-mapped for your xj6?

stellar-warior Mar 30, 2013 10:37 AM

yes it is. thanks all for the help, the jag is running great!

jerome currier Oct 8, 2024 02:50 PM

No Spark
 

Originally Posted by stellar-warior (Post 707101)
yes it is. thanks all for the help, the jag is running great!

I have an 86 XJ6 with no spark. I'm fairly certain that the pickup coil in the distributor is bad. The reisistance reading is over 5 M. I've read it should be between 2k and 4K. You've stated you have replaced the coil with a Pertronic unit, Could you please tell me the Pertronic # you used? Thanks

David84XJ6 Oct 8, 2024 03:07 PM

The Petronix distributors AFAIK have the amp built in. Is it pre-mapped for your xj6?

Yes the amp is with the Pertronix distributor and is pre-mapped for jaguar engine. Must be timed to Pertronix instruction at static (not Jaguar work book), as curves are different. At 3000 to 3700 RPM they are virtually the same as Jaguar/Lucas distributor.
Rgds
David

jerome currier Oct 8, 2024 03:26 PM

Thanks for responding, but I'm just not seeing anything on the Pertronix website that is specific to my XJ6.

David84XJ6 Oct 8, 2024 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by jerome currier (Post 2791929)
Thanks for responding, but I'm just not seeing anything on the Pertronix website that is specific to my XJ6.

PerTronix D171618 Flame-Thrower Electronic Distributor Cast British 6 cyl Plug and Play with Ignitor ( PerTronix 45011 Flame-Thrower II 45,000 Volt 0.6 ohm Coil , Black) (Does not require ignition ballast or the Ignition Amplifier)

shop Amazon, Summit, e-bay for the best prices... be sure to get recommended matching coil for best performance. Pertronic legal department will have a disclaimer that it works on carb. models only (as they are a California Co. and do not have ARB approval as a direct replacement for EFI engines)... But many forum members report success with this distributor... The issue is whether it will fire the fuel injector circuit without and an adapter, and it does.
Rgds
David

jerome currier Oct 8, 2024 04:31 PM

Thanks David, appreciate all the help!


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