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katar83 01-11-2018 08:58 AM

Caliper rebuild and new brake fluid.
 
Hi,

As one of the winter jobs on my rusty XJS I was thinking I could rebuild the front calipers on it. The only issue I have is that while the calipers will be off the car I'll need to somehow cap the lines so the brake fluid doesnt all leak out, I've heard its not the best idea to have the whole system empty as its v.difficult to get all the air out later on.

Any ideas on what sort of a blanking plug I should use? What size? I suspect I will have to cut the flexi hose in two and then get it off the brake line itself but I'll try to undo it from the caliper first. Maybe I could then use something like a heat shrink cap? Will it hold the brake fluid?

Hope this all makes sense!

Daim 01-11-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by katar83 (Post 1823331)
Hi,

As one of the winter jobs on my rusty XJS I was thinking I could rebuild the front calipers on it. The only issue I have is that while the calipers will be off the car I'll need to somehow cap the lines so the brake fluid doesnt all leak out, I've heard its not the best idea to have the whole system empty as its v.difficult to get all the air out later on.

Any ideas on what sort of a blanking plug I should use? What size? I suspect I will have to cut the flexi hose in two and then get it off the brake line itself but I'll try to undo it from the caliper first. Maybe I could then use something like a heat shrink cap? Will it hold the brake fluid?

Hope this all makes sense!

Get yourself a couple of these and you just clamp the hose. If they are round jawed, then the hoses will be fine.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d83bf0fc58.jpg

katar83 01-11-2018 09:18 AM

Really? :O I had to do a similar thing on my x300 last summer and the flexi hoses felt really sturdy, definitely felt like I wouldn't be able to just squeeze them to close them and had to rush with the brakes before the fluid leaked, whatever I stuck in the hole hence I thought I'd get some sort of a proper cap this time :)

Daim 01-11-2018 11:14 AM

They are made for exactly that job mate ;) I used them on my X308 and my XJ-S...

Mark SF 01-11-2018 11:22 AM

If you're cutting the hose, then anything round (to stick in the end of the hose) and a hose clamp will stop the flow.

katar83 01-11-2018 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Daim (Post 1823408)
They are made for exactly that job mate ;) I used them on my X308 and my XJ-S...

Where can I find these exactly? Looked at ebay, found some AMtech but reviews point out that these will not work for flexi hoses on at least some cars so not entirely sure? Apparently at least the AMtech ones will not fully stop the fluid and it will still drip slowly.
I will need at least few days to rebuild the calipers as ~two days to strip them to bare metal(Deox-C bath) and another day or two sorting pistons and seals and then painting the whole thing.


Originally Posted by Mark SF (Post 1823412)
If you're cutting the hose, then anything round (to stick in the end of the hose) and a hose clamp will stop the flow.

I thought about it, just wasnt sure it would stop the fluid. Any ideas what the hose diameter roughly? Or the metal ends thread size?

I was thinking If I undo the hose from the line and screw in a similar size bolt with some threadlock this should definitely stop the fluid leaking, just not sure what's the thread size. Might need to order a pair of these hoses to find out I guess.

rgp 01-11-2018 12:40 PM

your x300 prob had goodridge stainless steel brake type hoses. I got them and wouldn't dare.
clamps will be fine on yours or get a cheap brake cylinder and screw that on.

baxtor 01-11-2018 02:02 PM

The clamps shown are fine and purpose built as Daim suggested.
l have used many methods over the years, some rougher than others and found even the humble plastic bag over the hose end and taped tightly with electrical tape does a fine job too, you're only dealing with gravity feed.

orangeblossom 01-11-2018 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by katar83 (Post 1823331)
Hi,

As one of the winter jobs on my rusty XJS I was thinking I could rebuild the front calipers on it. The only issue I have is that while the calipers will be off the car I'll need to somehow cap the lines so the brake fluid doesnt all leak out, I've heard its not the best idea to have the whole system empty as its v.difficult to get all the air out later on.

Any ideas on what sort of a blanking plug I should use? What size? I suspect I will have to cut the flexi hose in two and then get it off the brake line itself but I'll try to undo it from the caliper first. Maybe I could then use something like a heat shrink cap? Will it hold the brake fluid?

Hope this all makes sense!

Hi Katar

If you want to Seal your Brake Hoses while you are rebuilding your Calipers, all you need is a couple of old Steel or (copper type) Brake Pipes.

Which almost any Garage will give you Free of Charge, then just hammer or squeeze the ends shut and Screw them onto your Brake Hose

If you only get One, then just cut it in half so you have Two pieces

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...68398d19bd.jpg

Just get an old Brake Pipe and then Hammer or Squeeze the end shut


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...dbea88e655.jpg

Doing this will Temporarily seal your brake hose up while doing your Calipers


I also make all my Brake Pipes with a DIY Kit that Costs about £35 plus another £10 for a Coil of (Copper Type) Brake Pipe

Once you get the hang of it, then its very easy to do and if you want to see how its done then have a look at Page 17.

Of my 'Cherry Blossom' Restoration Thread. Here is the Link: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...122634/page17/


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