I'm at the end of my rope with this new 12 XKR
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I have been on the new XJ forum since the beginning and there have been very few engine issues reported. I am very pleased with mine, so much so that I have ordered a 2013 XKR for my wife. If a problem does develop, I have every confidence that Jaguar will take care of it. Stuff happens--I had a Maserati QP once that developed a camshaft problem and it had to be in the shop for 2 months, but it was fine when I got it back. Yes, it's frustrating, but you can't just assume that the problem is epidemic and start threatening legal action. That's why there's a warranty and Jaguar has a darn good one.
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Hou Tex
Thanks for confirming this as I knew I read of others. The folks who are ignoring the issue without notifying Jaguar are doing a disservice to themselves and others as Jaguar needs to know the real extent of this issue so they can identify the vin range and get appropriate corrective measures in place.
I'm sure your wife's 2013 XKR will be great, no doubt Jaguar by then will know the affected range of heads and extent of the issue etc and that's why I was willing to allow a collateral exchange trying another one but I'm waiting to see if that will happen since Jaguar only offered to buy out my lease. If they do extend a collateral exchange then as I've always said, I'd give them another shot. Congratulations on the new car!
Rouseslane,
My car is a vert. The figure the dealer quoted was a $25,000.00 loss to Jaguar if they were to get me out of my car and this was quoted before they actually offered to do it, so it could have been a negotiating tactic? The pay off on my lease is $96k and change; MSRP was just over $110k.
Thanks for confirming this as I knew I read of others. The folks who are ignoring the issue without notifying Jaguar are doing a disservice to themselves and others as Jaguar needs to know the real extent of this issue so they can identify the vin range and get appropriate corrective measures in place.
I'm sure your wife's 2013 XKR will be great, no doubt Jaguar by then will know the affected range of heads and extent of the issue etc and that's why I was willing to allow a collateral exchange trying another one but I'm waiting to see if that will happen since Jaguar only offered to buy out my lease. If they do extend a collateral exchange then as I've always said, I'd give them another shot. Congratulations on the new car!
Rouseslane,
My car is a vert. The figure the dealer quoted was a $25,000.00 loss to Jaguar if they were to get me out of my car and this was quoted before they actually offered to do it, so it could have been a negotiating tactic? The pay off on my lease is $96k and change; MSRP was just over $110k.
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ice, have you driven one / sat in one yet? I'm 6' 1" and feel like I'm pretty close to being about as tall as you'd want to be for an XK. Obviously everybody is built differently, and everyone has their "ideal" seating position but I figured it would be worth mentioning.
As for the reliability thing, I went searching a while back and found the same thing aahmichael did. Searching for "misfire" in the relevant XJ / XK forums, you can read everything there is to know in about 5 minutes. RJC's car obviously had some issues, but stating that certain VIN ranges suffer from a condition that requires a cylinder head replacement seems like wild speculation, based upon what I've read.
As for the reliability thing, I went searching a while back and found the same thing aahmichael did. Searching for "misfire" in the relevant XJ / XK forums, you can read everything there is to know in about 5 minutes. RJC's car obviously had some issues, but stating that certain VIN ranges suffer from a condition that requires a cylinder head replacement seems like wild speculation, based upon what I've read.
On another note...back to the GTR. Today I saw one at the Cars and Coffee meet at Ferrari of Ft Laud. That thing was sweet. The owner had the interior carbon fiber'd out. It was very cool. The exterior was veru similar to what I would do, 21 inch wheels with chrome lips and charcoal centers, lowered, custom spoiler and body kit....it was a head turner. It stood out among all the Ferrari. I think my mind is wandering.
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I have been on the new XJ forum since the beginning and there have been very few engine issues reported. ...snip... Yes, it's frustrating, but you can't just assume that the problem is epidemic and start threatening legal action. That's why there's a warranty and Jaguar has a darn good one.
Hou Tex
Thanks for confirming this as I knew I read of others. The folks who are ignoring the issue without notifying Jaguar are doing a disservice to themselves and others as Jaguar needs to know the real extent of this issue so they can identify the vin range and get appropriate corrective measures in place.
Thanks for confirming this as I knew I read of others. The folks who are ignoring the issue without notifying Jaguar are doing a disservice to themselves and others as Jaguar needs to know the real extent of this issue so they can identify the vin range and get appropriate corrective measures in place.
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RJC,
Sorry to read of your troubles. I have only been in my XJ for a few weeks, but thankfully don't have the cold start misfire issue in the Supercharged engine. My dealer has been very accomodating in general, sending me home in vehicles for the weekend prior to purchase. Like you, I have been through a number of vehicles over the years, although fewer than you as I am "only" 39.
I simply love cars too!
Anyhow, what also caught my attention is your back pain issue. I am a medical provider who has placed lumbar ESIs in the past. While it is no longer a part of my regular practice, I would say that steroid injections are rarely a long-term cure. I also agree that backs tend to never be the same again once operated upon. Back pain is a serious bugaboo. Old, repetitive sports injuries have left me prone to occasional back issues myself.
As to cars...have you considered an Audi R8 vert? A little pricey, but top-notch fun. The new BMW 650 vert has some good incentives as well and is a decent GT.
Best of luck with your pain and I hope you find some relief.
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PMMD
Sorry to read of your troubles. I have only been in my XJ for a few weeks, but thankfully don't have the cold start misfire issue in the Supercharged engine. My dealer has been very accomodating in general, sending me home in vehicles for the weekend prior to purchase. Like you, I have been through a number of vehicles over the years, although fewer than you as I am "only" 39.
I simply love cars too! Anyhow, what also caught my attention is your back pain issue. I am a medical provider who has placed lumbar ESIs in the past. While it is no longer a part of my regular practice, I would say that steroid injections are rarely a long-term cure. I also agree that backs tend to never be the same again once operated upon. Back pain is a serious bugaboo. Old, repetitive sports injuries have left me prone to occasional back issues myself.
As to cars...have you considered an Audi R8 vert? A little pricey, but top-notch fun. The new BMW 650 vert has some good incentives as well and is a decent GT.
Best of luck with your pain and I hope you find some relief.
Regards,
PMMD
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RJC,
Sorry to read of your troubles. I have only been in my XJ for a few weeks, but thankfully don't have the cold start misfire issue in the Supercharged engine. My dealer has been very accomodating in general, sending me home in vehicles for the weekend prior to purchase. Like you, I have been through a number of vehicles over the years, although fewer than you as I am "only" 39. I simply love cars too!
Anyhow, what also caught my attention is your back pain issue. I am a medical provider who has placed lumbar ESIs in the past. While it is no longer a part of my regular practice, I would say that steroid injections are rarely a long-term cure. I also agree that backs tend to never be the same again once operated upon. Back pain is a serious bugaboo. Old, repetitive sports injuries have left me prone to occasional back issues myself.
As to cars...have you considered an Audi R8 vert? A little pricey, but top-notch fun. The new BMW 650 vert has some good incentives as well and is a decent GT.
Best of luck with your pain and I hope you find some relief.
Regards,
PMMD
Sorry to read of your troubles. I have only been in my XJ for a few weeks, but thankfully don't have the cold start misfire issue in the Supercharged engine. My dealer has been very accomodating in general, sending me home in vehicles for the weekend prior to purchase. Like you, I have been through a number of vehicles over the years, although fewer than you as I am "only" 39.
I simply love cars too! Anyhow, what also caught my attention is your back pain issue. I am a medical provider who has placed lumbar ESIs in the past. While it is no longer a part of my regular practice, I would say that steroid injections are rarely a long-term cure. I also agree that backs tend to never be the same again once operated upon. Back pain is a serious bugaboo. Old, repetitive sports injuries have left me prone to occasional back issues myself.
As to cars...have you considered an Audi R8 vert? A little pricey, but top-notch fun. The new BMW 650 vert has some good incentives as well and is a decent GT.
Best of luck with your pain and I hope you find some relief.
Regards,
PMMD
Glad you moved on/away from ESI's.
I really need a car with true cooled seats (due to the arachnoidits I got from the ESI insult) and it was one of the things that brought me to the XKR; I'm also not a big fan of sedans.
My dealership's service dept has been great too.
I looked at the 6 series convt before I got the Jag but it just didn't do anything for me. The new SL would be great but it only has vented seats which do not get cold, so a custom mod will be needed.
Thanks for the well wishes, very much appreciated
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It's actually how many pages it will go before Bruce's internal server stops functioning (j/k) still luv ya Bruce!
On another note the new Portfolio loaner I was given has been a delight, rock solid, smooth idle, no rattles, loving the cooled seats again and almost no brake dust after 3 days of use! I guess the new XF uses different/cleaner pads and the car stops quite well. No I dont want an XF thank you lol...
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Don't know if I'm feeling those rims but thank you for thinking of me ICE! So glad we don't have to put those giant euro front plates on the front of our cars here.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
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Don't know if I'm feeling those rims but thank you for thinking of me ICE! So glad we don't have to put those giant euro front plates on the front of our cars here.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
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Thanks so much
I'll never be able to get in and out of the R8 with my spine injury
the SL is about as sporty/low as I can go and it's not easy. I'm still going to have to retro fit coolers for the seats to help one of my many painful areas (the burning in the back of my legs) with cold to ease the pain; arachnoiditis is just terrible.
I just read the new SL's performance stats and they are outstanding 0-60 4.4, quarter mile 12.5 @ 113.2 mph, skid pad 0.94g's, slalom 66.7 mph, braking 60-0 114 ft. I'll never use the car to its potential but it's nice to know is performs so well.
I'll never be able to get in and out of the R8 with my spine injury
the SL is about as sporty/low as I can go and it's not easy. I'm still going to have to retro fit coolers for the seats to help one of my many painful areas (the burning in the back of my legs) with cold to ease the pain; arachnoiditis is just terrible.I just read the new SL's performance stats and they are outstanding 0-60 4.4, quarter mile 12.5 @ 113.2 mph, skid pad 0.94g's, slalom 66.7 mph, braking 60-0 114 ft. I'll never use the car to its potential but it's nice to know is performs so well.
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Don't know if I'm feeling those rims but thank you for thinking of me ICE! So glad we don't have to put those giant euro front plates on the front of our cars here.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
Well my XKR was officially paid off today at Chase. My SL is due at the port Thursday and should be here by the middle to end of next week if all goes well.
Appears someone else on the XJ board may be having a similar issue to mine, misfires...hoping his will be something minor.
I love 5 spoke wheels most because of the spoke action when the car is rolling. It draws the eye.
I wouldn't buy this particular wheel because I prefer lips but it is very popular right now. Lots of Benz enthusiasts are mounting them.
Different strokes for different folks.
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Not into wheels...or just those wheels?
I love 5 spoke wheels most because of the spoke action when the car is rolling. It draws the eye.
I wouldn't buy this particular wheel because I prefer lips but it is very popular right now. Lots of Benz enthusiasts are mounting them.
Different strokes for different folks.
I love 5 spoke wheels most because of the spoke action when the car is rolling. It draws the eye.
I wouldn't buy this particular wheel because I prefer lips but it is very popular right now. Lots of Benz enthusiasts are mounting them.
Different strokes for different folks.
Here's a pic; can someone resize for me please?
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