'07 XK Coupe yes or no?
I've got my eye on a nice well optioned 2007 XK Coupe, 2 owners, full history, 87k miles. I am not really a convertible kind of guy and well, I live in Portland, OR so top down driving opportunities are pretty rare. Currently I have an '09 XF SC with 64K so going to the NA 2007 would be a drop in performance, but really, these days what does that matter? I like the way both cars drive, and XK feels lighter and more connected that th XFSC, which is not really a surprise and the 4.2AJ8 is a beautiful engine whether NA or SC.
So what's my question? I'd love to hear from anyone that has gone from an XF to an XK, and also thoughts on the 2007 MY specifically. I'd also like to hear about any common problems to the early XK's. I know about the leather dash issue but other than that, anything to watch out for? Of course in the looks dept it's also a no contest IMHO! Thanks in Advance - Tim |
Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 2005846)
I am not really a convertible kind of guy and well, I live in Portland, OR so top down driving opportunities are pretty rare.
If you are not interested in a convertible, then you are accepting substantial downsides over conventional hard roof coupe - convertibles are louder than coupe, harder to clean (e.g. you can't do auto wash), and prone to unique types of failures (e.g. seals start leaking). My suggestion: reconsider not linking driving top down. |
I have a 2007 base XK in Emerald Fire. Gorgeous car, and I drive it daily in Hollywood traffic. Ive drove it all the way Seattle a month ago and it was glorious. Theyre made for the rain, and blend in beautifully in the PNW |
And I had a 2007 XK coupe in Jaguar Racing Green - simply stunningly beautiful and absolutely trouble-free, still in the family. There is no particular issue with the 07 car compared to other model years, and the 4.2 litre naturally-aspirated is problem-free. The thermostat and housing should be replaced if it has not been done already but other than that, no issues (the XK likes full battery voltage, so a CTEK or similar battery maintainer used regularly, is a very good idea) |
Subscribing to the 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' concept, I personally think the X150 coupe is the better looking of the two.
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Interesting replies, thanks! Do you think I will notice the 100HP difference. BTW this is not a daily driver. I have a Ford Edge to does that duty. The XF/XK will only be for dry weekends....
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Tim with the correct performance mods the n/a 4.2 will be fairly quick and on par with the xf SC without the mods yes it will feel very sluggish compared to your s/c
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How much is the car in question? Given what you've shared, it's between 10-13k right?
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I would find a blown XK, best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
(Post 2005888)
I would find a blown XK, best of both worlds.
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I would go '08+ to avoid the antenna and Taurus wings. If I were to pick an earlier XK, the color combo would be the most important. Some look jazzier than others.
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Not the XF but I had an XJ super charged. Yes the difference is substantial in performance and the XJ was an absolute blast to drive. 0-60 in 4.2 sec and 100mph felt like 70mph. But she was a big beasty. 17.5 feet long IIRC. That said, I parted with it for the 4.2 N/A. I sigh a few times less as each year passes as the memory fades. I live without the SC but still do miss it. You really can't "not notice" the difference. Only time will erase it from your mind. Insurance is a wee bit less with the 4.2 so there's a positive.
I've had no issues with my 07 XK I'm with NB Cat in that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't like the look of the vert so that's a non starter for me. Others are visa versa on the subject. |
I went from a 2009 XF premium Luxury to an 08 XK missed a few options but loved the difference in handling drove it for a couple of years and went to a 12 xk |
The car is $15K OTD, no car sales tax in OR.... Autocheck is clean, 2 owners. 86K miles. https://www.curbsidemotors.com/vehic...WA43B675B12606
To me the color combo is great, it has the upgraded audio and 19". I fell it is good, not great, price. Ideally I'd like to find the same color and options as an XKR, but that would be more $ and at least a year newer.... |
Originally Posted by Sean W
(Post 2005916)
Not the XF but I had an XJ super charged. Yes the difference is substantial in performance and the XJ was an absolute blast to drive. 0-60 in 4.2 sec and 100mph felt like 70mph. But she was a big beasty. 17.5 feet long IIRC. That said, I parted with it for the 4.2 N/A. I sigh a few times less as each year passes as the memory fades. I live without the SC but still do miss it. You really can't "not notice" the difference. Only time will erase it from your mind. Insurance is a wee bit less with the 4.2 so there's a positive.
I've had no issues with my 07 XK I'm with NB Cat in that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't like the look of the vert so that's a non starter for me. Others are visa versa on the subject. |
Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 2005966)
The car is $15K OTD, no car sales tax in OR.... Autocheck is clean, 2 owners. 86K miles. https://www.curbsidemotors.com/vehic...WA43B675B12606
To me the color combo is great, it has the upgraded audio and 19". I fell it is good, not great, price. Ideally I'd like to find the same color and options as an XKR, but that would be more $ and at least a year newer.... |
Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 2005966)
The car is $15K OTD, no car sales tax in OR.... Autocheck is clean, 2 owners. 86K miles. https://www.curbsidemotors.com/vehic...WA43B675B12606
To me the color combo is great, it has the upgraded audio and 19". I fell it is good, not great, price. Ideally I'd like to find the same color and options as an XKR, but that would be more $ and at least a year newer.... |
Originally Posted by jagtoes
(Post 2005985)
I assume this car is somewhat near to you. Have you driven it yet so you can get a feel of how it drives. When I started my search I drove 80 miles to take a test drive at a dealer. I just wanted to see if it was a car I would want. After the drive my strategy to to go hunt one down with the color options I wanted. My search was with all of the various car sales web sites as well as some strategic dealers. I didn't want to limit myself to a "local" car just because it was near. I expected to have the car shipped to me so I didn't care if it was 5 miles or 5000 miles away . So if you like what you see then get it but if you want larger choices search all of the US and pick what you want. Remember thee are not fast selling cars so take your time.
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If it were me I would drive the black coupe to get the feel of it as compared to the vert. Living in SoCal, for me its got to be a vert.
To get to your questions: be aware of one further issue common to early XKs. The condensate tube with a duckbill on the end can be an issue when the duckbill gets stuck in the closed position. There are several threads on the Forum dealing with the problem. Suggest you utilize the search box in the upper RH corner to research the issue. Not sure how you can find out if the condensate tube has been modified on any vehicle you look at; but you should be aware of the issue. |
Originally Posted by ralphwg
(Post 2006012)
...To get to your questions: be aware of one further issue common to early XKs. The condensate tube with a duckbill on the end can be an issue when the duckbill gets stuck in the closed position...
1. Inspect the suspension to see if the ball joint rubber covers need replacement because of cracking. 2. The thermostat housing, coolant reservoir and all engine coolant hoses should be evaluated for replacement. The plastic housing interior will break down and the thermostat may not operate correctly. The coolant reservoir may become brittle and start to leak. The hose which connects from the rear of the coolant pump (engine valley) to the throttle body is difficult to replace without removing the intake manifold. |
That’s a car you want to see in person before buying, to see if it really ‘lights your fire’. The driver’s seat has wear and scratches. The wood on the top of the stearing wheel looks worn and doesn’t color match the rest of the interior wood. I don’t think chrome was a wheel color option (but I could be wrong), so they may be refinished Carrelia’s, and if so, are they hiding previous wheel damage? There’s alot of grey cars out there, so you wouldn’t have to settle for this one. |
Yes, it's probably a 20ft car. I noticed the leather scratches. Also the previous owner left a note that they had pulled the fuse (F4) for the electric antenna, but that the radio still worked fine. The dealer was careful to describe the wheels as 'Carrelia style', and TBH I am not a fan of the chrome finish. I know I keep getting told that there are a lot of XK coupes out there, but if I search across the whole USA for 2007+ coupes, <100K miles and <$20K I don't find all that many, and I certainly am not buying one from a rust belt state....
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You're looking for a summer blaster in the wintertime, wait a couple months for the summer for sale'rs to show up before pulling the trigger.
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I have been looking for the right coupe for almost a year myself, there are quite a few grey examples with well under 100K for quite a bit less than $20K if you checkout Auto Trader. Just use the filters to find year, color, mileage, etc.
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In general terms, when buying a used luxury car you should look for the best example you can find, as it will be prohibitively expensive to take 'good' and make it 'excellent'. Look for a documented history that shows care. Avoid anything that was in an accident that required painting panels. Avoid lowered, tuned, or otherwise excessively modded cars. Also, if you intend to drive (as opposed to collect it),avoid cars that have too few miles (less than 20K) as they sat a lot. Ideally, you want to buy your XK on estate sale where it is one of many cars being sold (i.e. PO was a car guy).
Take your time finding the right car, be prepared to pay slightly above market price to get a great example, and make sure you are up to the task of maintaining it or know a local independent mechanic familiar with Jaguars. Even cleanest 10+ year old luxury car will never be entirely trouble free, so make sure you factor that into purchase price. |
Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 2006031)
Yes, it's probably a 20ft car. I noticed the leather scratches. Also the previous owner left a note that they had pulled the fuse (F4) for the electric antenna, but that the radio still worked fine. The dealer was careful to describe the wheels as 'Carrelia style', and TBH I am not a fan of the chrome finish. I know I keep getting told that there are a lot of XK coupes out there, but if I search across the whole USA for 2007+ coupes, <100K miles and <$20K I don't find all that many, and I certainly am not buying one from a rust belt state....
I found mine on eBay and when I found out it was local, I bought it outside of there (after auction ended with reserve not met) just like any old car. I did the same on my 2000 XKR Convertible 8 years earlier; which was owned by a wealthy lawyer who owned it for 8 years and loved it so much he'd bought a 2010 XKR Convertible in the exact same basic color combo. |
Originally Posted by 80sRule
(Post 2006105)
Blk/Blk, walnut, alpine, 20" wheels.
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Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 2006107)
Black on black looks spectacular, however it isn't for faint of heart. Any spec of dust shows. Very easy to swirl the paint. Being a touch OCD, I swore off from ever owning a black on black car, as I spent excessive amount of time detailing mine.
If I get a DB9, which I've been interested in for about 4 years, my preferred color combo is the extremely common grey exterior and black interior. I think it looks outstanding. |
Totally, I had a black on black S-type a few years ago. It looked good for the 10 minutes after it was just washed and waxed. Also I appreciate the feedback on Rustbelt cars. My wifes 2009 Saab 9-7X was a MI car but came to TX after only 6 months of summer in MI, so I totally get it. I'm going to hang on for the right one and pass on this one.....
- Tim |
Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
(Post 2005968)
Sean I'm gathering your referring to the 5.0 s/c not the 4.2 s/c
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Originally Posted by Sean W
(Post 2006180)
No Steve, the 4.2 SC in my X350 Super V8.
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Originally Posted by SinF
(Post 2006107)
Black on black looks spectacular, however it isn't for faint of heart. Any spec of dust shows. Very easy to swirl the paint. Being a touch OCD, I swore off from ever owning a black on black car, as I spent excessive amount of time detailing mine.
The xk in liquid Silver looks absolutely brilliant. |
Winter Gold, Zircon Metallic, and Seafrost Green Metallic are my favorite older XK colors by a country mile.
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
(Post 2006191)
4.2sec 0-60mph impossible especially in the super V8
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
(Post 2006191)
4.2sec 0-60mph impossible especially in the super V8
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...f10e73135f.jpg |
He means in the XJ Super V8 Stuart and I'm gonna say he's right.
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I agree. It was impossible for the old X350 XJ with its 400HP 4.2L SC engine to do 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. But it was no slouch, as it reportedly did 0-60 in 4.9 seconds.
Because this thread is titled "07 XK Coupe Yes or No?", I thought that road test info would be helpful to show that the 4.2L engine is capable of 0-60 in 4.2 seconds when supercharged (420HP) and installed in an XK. |
4.2 sec to 60mph is roughly a 12.6 1/4 mile
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That's exactly what the road test shows, at 111.9mph.
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Definitely modified ..most run 107/108mph
I wonder if it was tweaked prior to testing??? |
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