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wkb 03-24-2018 04:08 PM

it can take AAA quite awhile to show up on a road trip through the badlands or crossing Nevada or Wyoming. Places where you might find a replacement tire for a tractor more easily than or the F type.

Brewtech 03-24-2018 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by wkb (Post 1864590)
it can take AAA quite awhile to show up on a road trip through the badlands or crossing Nevada or Wyoming. Places where you might find a replacement tire for a tractor more easily than or the F type.

you’re reaching. But anyway, some people need 30 safety nets. 🙄

tberg 03-24-2018 05:48 PM

For a sporty 4 door that is quick, handles so well and does everything so smoothly, I think it would be hard to beat the 4door Audi S5. My oldest friend just bought one, and I am highly impressed driving it just as I was several years ago when my business partner had a 2 door S5 6spd. It's just great. If sportiness is not part of the equation, but luxury and comfort are, I have to say that our Lincoln MKX Black Label has about every creature comfort (some of the nanny stuff I could do without) you could ask for and 22 way adjustable seats with an incredible massager feature. And the 2.7L ecoboost engine is peppy (330hp) with plenty of storage space. My one complaint is going over speed bumps it feels like the rear end is disconnected from the rest of the car, but otherwise, it's tight, comfortable, and quite luxurious. The new Continental with the 30 way adjustable seats looks incredible inside.

Cee Jay 03-24-2018 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by tberg (Post 1864654)
For a sporty 4 door that is quick, handles so well and does everything so smoothly, I think it would be hard to beat the 4door Audi S5. ............

Personally, I can't stand Audis of any sort. Every one I've driven has been ergonomically abysmal, mediocre ride and performance and an 'anti-climax' to drive. They all made me sad. Add the horrendous quality and upkeep prices and I wouldn't even take one for free.
Besides, as Jeremy Clarkson says, Audi has taken over the Driven-by-Cocks title from BMW.

steve_k_xk 03-24-2018 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Cee Jay (Post 1864662)
Personally, I can't stand Audis of any sort. Every one I've driven has been ergonomically abysmal, mediocre ride and performance and an 'anti-climax' to drive. They all made me sad. Add the horrendous quality and upkeep prices and I wouldn't even take one for free.
Besides, as Jeremy Clarkson says, Audi has taken over the Driven-by-Cocks title from BMW.

+1
On top of their so called 'cool' status their s-tronic gearboxes are horrendous, jerky and prone to premature failure

shemp 03-25-2018 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by tberg (Post 1864654)
For a sporty 4 door that is quick, handles so well and does everything so smoothly, I think it would be hard to beat the 4door Audi S5. My oldest friend just bought one, and I am highly impressed driving it just as I was several years ago when my business partner had a 2 door S5 6spd. It's just great. If sportiness is not part of the equation, but luxury and comfort are, I have to say that our Lincoln MKX Black Label has about every creature comfort (some of the nanny stuff I could do without) you could ask for and 22 way adjustable seats with an incredible massager feature. And the 2.7L ecoboost engine is peppy (330hp) with plenty of storage space. My one complaint is going over speed bumps it feels like the rear end is disconnected from the rest of the car, but otherwise, it's tight, comfortable, and quite luxurious. The new Continental with the 30 way adjustable seats looks incredible inside.

I test drove the MKZ and the MKS today and was impressed. The MKS had a better ride and comfort overall. The 3.7 v6 was competent but not impressive. The Genesis' 3.8 v6 is noticeably more peppy but the MKS is more comfortable.

dsd 03-25-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Cee Jay (Post 1864662)
Personally, I can't stand Audis of any sort. Every one I've driven has been ergonomically abysmal, mediocre ride and performance and an 'anti-climax' to drive. They all made me sad. Add the horrendous quality and upkeep prices and I wouldn't even take one for free.
Besides, as Jeremy Clarkson says, Audi has taken over the Driven-by-Cocks title from BMW.

Agree. They have the worst ergonomic/control layout I’ve driven.

Also, massive blind spots. The new ones have these angled side mirrors that cut their usefulness to near zero.

mosesbotbol 03-28-2018 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1864863)
I test drove the MKZ and the MKS today and was impressed. The MKS had a better ride and comfort overall.

We plan to look at Lincoln when it comes time to replace our XE Jag. I like their styling direction.

shemp 03-30-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1866663)
We plan to look at Lincoln when it comes time to replace our XE Jag. I like their styling direction.

The new Continental looks amazing...

I pulled the trigger on a 2015 CPO Lincoln MKS with the Elite package last night. Locally leased, dealer serviced. Fully loaded with panoramic sunroof and 20" wheels. It's got massaging seats for crying out loud! Nice car, good value.

I also drove a CPO 2015 Caddy XTS. Great car as well for the money. Loved the interior.

tberg 03-30-2018 10:44 AM

Shemp,
Congrats on the new car. We did the same on a 2016 MKX Black Label CPO for my wife. The massaging seats are incredible and have saved my back on numerous trips. Enjoy!!

mosesbotbol 03-30-2018 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1868028)
The new Continental looks amazing...

I pulled the trigger on a 2015 CPO Lincoln MKS with the Elite package last night. Locally leased, dealer serviced. Fully loaded with panoramic sunroof and 20" wheels. It's got massaging seats for crying out loud! Nice car, good value.

I also drove a CPO 2015 Caddy XTS. Great car as well for the money. Loved the interior.

I saw the new Navigator the other day, that is pretty well done as well. Nice on your new MKS! Post some pictures. It's on our list for sure.

shemp 03-30-2018 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by tberg (Post 1868048)
Shemp,
Congrats on the new car. We did the same on a 2016 MKX Black Label CPO for my wife. The massaging seats are incredible and have saved my back on numerous trips. Enjoy!!

yea and I get numb ass syndrome so this should help :). I drove.the mkz as.well. Loved the sleek interior. The MKS beat it out becauseI wanted the larger car.


Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1868059)
I saw the new Navigator the other day, that is pretty well done as well. Nice on your new MKS! Post some pictures. It's on our list for sure.

i pick it up today. Ill get some pics up tomorrow

pk4144 03-30-2018 09:30 PM

One thought after a week with two XE's:
- if you're looking at an XE, GET THE SIX-CYLINDER. The turbo lag in the 4-cyl almost got me into two accidents. Ironically, as I was returning the car I heard an interesting thing on NPR about how manufacturers design cars specifically for the EPA mileage rating and the turbo-four is almost custom-designed to game the fuel economy ratings test. I hate 'em.
I was DONE with the XE... and then I was swapped into a model with the supercharged 6.
Completely different driving experience. I am now a fan of the XE.

One more thing: After those two weeks, I may in fact pick up a 6-cyl XE. BUT I WILL NEVER trade my supercharged V8. NEVER.

CleverName 03-31-2018 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by pk4144 (Post 1868413)
manufacturers design cars specifically for the EPA mileage rating and the turbo-four is almost custom-designed to game the fuel economy ratings test.

I wont speak to the XE, but I've had 4 turbo 4-cylinders in my life, and loved every one of them.
The '91 Galant VR4 2.0 has so many rally wins in its day it shocked the race industry. Today that same 1st generation turbo 4 is pushing cars into the low 9's on the quarter mile track.
Audis 2.0 Turbo DFI is not as stout as Mitsubishi's, but many owners run them as daily drivers just under the 600hp mark.

Point being 4 cylinder turbos have the ability to offer the best of both worlds, IF the manufacturer knows what they are doing by building robustness into the blocks, AND allow aftermarket tuners access to the ECU, you can have a light weight beast. Turbo Lag has never gone away, but it has in almost every respect been so minimized, that it remains of little concern.

2 cents on 4 cyl turbos
Vince

shemp 04-07-2018 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1868059)
I saw the new Navigator the other day, that is pretty well done as well. Nice on your new MKS! Post some pictures. It's on our list for sure.

Seems sacrilege posting this on a Jag forum but here goes, lol.
https://s6.postimg.org/3zwt4746p/20180407_190452.jpg
https://s6.postimg.org/7jiqtzz6p/20180407_190548.jpg
https://s6.postimg.org/xrtvje6fl/20180407_190732.jpg
I really want an XJ but this will hold me over for a few years. Great ride. It's surprisingly quick and nimble for its size. Good value too. THX stereo system sounds great. Oh and it has a temp gauge!! ;)

Cee Jay 04-07-2018 08:04 PM

I like Lincolns. My old Continental was great, and with their 4.6 Mustang engine, I surprised quite a few young punks on the road.

tberg 04-07-2018 09:08 PM

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We got an MKX Black Label with all the bells and whistles, and the luxury of this car put my XKR to shame. The massage seats are just wonderful. Lincoln has come a long way with a little work left on things like suspension. And the twin turbo motors are very responsive.


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