'01 XKR - doing tensioners next week. Quick question.

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Dec 24, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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The mechanic (my friend, doing the majority of the work) told me we need a $300 part called an Endings Timing Lock Out tool (oem is $300). Is that true?

Does anyone know what he is talking about? He works on exotics in Orange Cty, NY, and knows his stuff, but very little with Jaguars.

If true, is there a cheaper way to do it - does anyone know?

Is there any way to find another guy like me who did it, buy his used, and sell it again?

Appreciate any input.
Jeff in rainy NJ

PS I forget if this is relevant - its a 2001 xkr with 28k miles on it, no sign of any issue. Leaks a little oil.
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Dec 24, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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See here...

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-tools-116130/
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Dec 24, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Quote: The mechanic (my friend, doing the majority of the work) told me we need a $300 part called an Endings Timing Lock Out tool (oem is $300). Is that true?

Does anyone know what he is talking about? He works on exotics in Orange Cty, NY, and knows his stuff, but very little with Jaguars.

If true, is there a cheaper way to do it - does anyone know?

Is there any way to find another guy like me who did it, buy his used, and sell it again?

Appreciate any input.
Jeff in rainy NJ

PS I forget if this is relevant - its a 2001 xkr with 28k miles on it, no sign of any issue. Leaks a little oil.

If you are just doing the secondary tensioners (which are the ones that are most prone to cause engine damage without warning when they fail), the 'zip-tie' method is a viable option and requires no special tools. See this thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ion-how-37415/
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Dec 24, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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Christopher foreign Car Parts has historically had the best prices for either partial kit (secondaries) or complete including new chains, they also rent the tools, and they are nearby in New Jersey. Others do too.
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Dec 24, 2014 | 11:42 AM
  #5  
Here's one more place that rents the tools.


Jaguar, Land Rover Specialty Repair Tool Rental - Motorcars Ltd.


Wayne
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Dec 25, 2014 | 04:32 AM
  #6  
Thank you. Whenever I read these posts, I am always amazed at the generosity of the members sharing their knowledge, offering suggestions and expertise. I will update as we get to doing this work.
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Dec 25, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Gus has loaner program
JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
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Dec 25, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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jamdmyers,

This link, if it proves to still be a functional service, is exactly what I have been looking for - borrowing the tools rather than buying them, step by step directions for either procedure and what seems to be a legit decent operation for the Jaguar community. Many thanks for sharing it. I will post and let you know how it goes.

Jeff
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Dec 26, 2014 | 05:56 AM
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Gus and his site has been here for some time, I suspect from his post he's a long time Jag enthusiast his post I read carefully there's always something to learn, Bookmark his site you'll use it in the future.
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Dec 26, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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I changed mine in October of 2013 using the "zip-tie" method. I double tied both sprocket's, just in case. Worked great and made the job very easy.
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Dec 27, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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I did mine several years ago and posted a detailed description with photographs. Do a search on EZDriver. No special tools needed and some cautions that will help.
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Jan 5, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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Right Bank tensioner issue
Hello all - I'm very grateful for all the insights from the Jag owners on this forum...based on that I proceeded to replace the secondary tensioners using the zip tie method...left bank - all went smoothly...

With the right bank all went well until I tried to insert the new tensioner...after fiddling with it for over an hour I can't get the holes to align to screw in the new bolts...I checked with Christopher Foreign Parts and he feels I have the correct part....

Any thoughts? Hopefully I'm missing something that's obvious....thanks
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Jan 5, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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Jimmy, dumb question, did you get a left and a right, or were they the same?


Wayne
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Jan 5, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Jimmy. When you have time please visit the new member area and introduce yourself.

New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum

As to the tensioner, make sure you aren't trying to put it in upside down. The moving shoe goes on the bottom.
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Jan 5, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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Right Bank tensioner issue
Wayne - thanks for the quick response - yes - I have the Right and Left parts as labeled by CHristopher...

RJ - thanks as well....maybe I am doing something stupid - so the moving "shoe" - which is the largest of the two - goes on the bottom? If that's true then I do have it upside down on the left bank...I'll check it...

I thought I did an intro many years ago when I joined - but will update as I have moved since then...thanks much...
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Jan 5, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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It goes on top on the left side.
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Jan 6, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Not need to use any zip ties. Waste of time and zipties.

Just ask somebody to give you a hand. One lifts up the camshaft and the othe slide out and in the new tensioner. Very easy and quick.

With and experienced or inventive mechanics c you can even change out the primary tenaioners without any special tools.

It is a very easy and basic car to work on. Just use your brains
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Jan 6, 2015 | 03:08 PM
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Quote: Not need to use any zip ties. Waste of time and zipties.

Just ask somebody to give you a hand. One lifts up the camshaft and the othe slide out and in the new tensioner. Very easy and quick.

With and experienced or inventive mechanics c you can even change out the primary tenaioners without any special tools.

It is a very easy and basic car to work on. Just use your brains
I agree with all you say. However, many forum members have never worked on a overhead cam engine, and in some cases never worked on any engine. For them the zip tie method provides a significant level of comfort and confidence.
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Jan 6, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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I just used the complete kit from Christopher.

Did the lot,chains,tensioners,guides water pump etc..

Trust your friend, don't even go there without the tools. Rent/buy/steal just have them.
Compared to having a jag mechanic who has the tools do the job the $300 is a bargain.Just flog them off on eBay.

I started with just doing the top tensioners but decided to go all the way. I'll post some pics of what was left of the guides. Me and my Jag are now best mates! Why just do the tops if you are keeping the car when doing the lot is a days work and a grand including the tools without labour.

Then enjoy your Jag knowing all is up to date.
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Jan 6, 2015 | 03:49 PM
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Quote: Thank you. Whenever I read these posts, I am always amazed at the generosity of the members sharing their knowledge, offering suggestions and expertise. I will update as we get to doing this work.
It's a little sad that so many Jag owners are not aware of what this Forum offers. I hear some whine about the cost of maintaining their Jag when this wealth of knowledge is at their fingertips.
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