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2003 XKR 20” front wheel.
Thanks for responding. My local tire guy - and we don’t have a lot of Jaguars or BBS wheels in Around here - said they used locktite. When those backed out after about two weeks and one 200 mile round trip, they tried a 2 part epoxy mix that he said was their final solution. That failed too soo I got sent to a machine shop. I’m driving around on a donut spare, but otherwise I’ve got a three wheel car - looking for some assistance in this forum. I’m fairly close to Nashville, Tennessee if maybe y’all could recommend a wheel shop. Thanks Hardy Roberts - west Kentucky 2003 Black XKR CONVN- 110,000 miles suoercharged V8 - |
I am afraid you will need to describe the actual problem in some detail before anyone can offer up a meaningful response.
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I'm assuming you have the three piece wheels and the titanium bolts are stripped in the drums. If the bolts are okay, a machine shop may be able to put inserts in the drum. If the bolts are stripped, you need to get new bolts, hard to do since BBS is long out of business. You might find them on ebay or a specialty site, you'll just have to do your homework. The drums have not been available for years. New wheels may still be available, but they are $2500 each and painted Oyster, so if yours are silver, you'll have to repaint it.
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Originally Posted by oldmots
(Post 1991365)
New wheels may still be available, but they are $2500 each and painted Oyster, so if yours are silver, you'll have to repaint it.
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Oldmots many thanks for your response. Buying a $2,500 wheel for a ~ $7,000 to $9,000 car is not really an option for me. Anybody got any other ideas? I guess I can sell the other 3 on EBay - maybe. I’m at the end of my rope here - is there a wheel shop that could at least jury rig my bad wheel so I can at least drive it. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks, Hardy |
We still don't know the precise nature of your problem Hardy nor how the damage occurred.
If it's stripped threads and depending on how many are bad, they can be repaired. |
Hroberts,
Please describe the actual problem you are having with the Wheel...….Are the Bolts stripped or the threads in the Wheel stripped or is it something else? We can't HELP if we don't know the problem...Why don't you get on the internet and look for a Wheel Shop in Nashville? Nashville should have someone there that knows about BBS Wheels....You can still get new parts for BBS Wheels.....Look for them on the internet...... Billy Clyde in Houston |
Thanks Bsxter and BpPrice - I’m sure it’s become apparent that I’m out of my element. I never heard of 3 or even 2 piece wheels. All I know is the the front left tire kept going flat and the tire shop found several of those bolts gone, a few more about halfway out and some sheared off. This is a local tire shop in a town of about 35,000 and there aren’t many Jaguars. They tightened the bolts. Took the wheel to a machine shop where they did what they could with the sheared bolts. Couple of week’s later the wheel was flat again. Bolts were tightened, Loktite used - it happened again and they used a 2 part epoxy - if that didn’t work I was on my own. Next I was on my own. Took it to the machine shop. Guy there pointed out that they not wheel guys, but with a tape he felt the thing was slightly out of round about a sixteenth and harmonics setting in at speed to work the bolts out. I have no idea where a wheel shop is - there’s not one in my town. Was hoping somebody on this forum would know of one in Nashville. Yes I can call around, rent a car and take it down there but was hoping y’all had some names or perhaps a reader or tire guy from there. I was in Tampa 2 weeks ago and went to dealer. He was helpful to the point of saying it’d have to be Jaguar wheels because of the Brembo brakes. Gave me the name of who they used - of course I didn’t have the wheel, so without seeing, wheel guy couldn’t say much. I understand that and appreciate your advice, if nothing else, it’s pointed out to me how much I don’t know. Ok I’m gonna ask around some more and go to Nashville. If any wheels gurus are reading this - and I’m betting you guys are, I’d love some contacts. Thanks for your time. It’s appreciated, believe me Hardy Roberts. |
Hardy,
Standard alloy wheels are a single piece casting. A three piece wheel or "split rim alloy" has separate parts which are bolted together. The advantage is it allows designers greater flexibility to create more intricate shapes. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...b730089dc0.jpg The titanium bolts around the perimeter are fitted with Loktite to prevent them working loose. Your tyre will be losing air either because the rim is distorted (leaking at the tyre bead) or the bolts have sheared/loosened and it is leaking through the rim assembly. You need a wheel SPECIALIST. They can dismantle the wheel, straighten, refinish and rebuild it. You mention Nashville. I've never been there but Google shows there's plenty of wheel repair specialists. Enter alloy wheel repair Nashville TN as the search term: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...370329aa52.jpg Graham |
Hi Hardy,
If you're willing to go about 30 minutes past Nashville, try Premier Wheel Workz in Murfreesboro, TN at 615-849-3848. Although not 3 piece, they did a great job with some straightening on a couple of Corvette Z06 wheels that I had at the time. At the time, I had tried calling the wheel repair places in Nashville, but I got voicemail and no one would ever call me back. Rob |
Tomorrow is Thanksgiving Holiday here and many are going to take the week off. I’ve rented a car for the day and going to Nashville first thing next week. Many thanks and Happy Thanksgiving to all of you on this forum. Hardy |
Graham that’s the best description and explanation I’ve seen. Many many thanks going to Nashville this coming Monday. Happy Thanksgiving holidays to you sir. Hardy |
Hroberts,
Hey Man, Good Luck with that wheel....If all else fails, you can contact: www.autorimshop.com ...I don't know which BBS Wheel you have but they have BBS wheels and if it's out of stock, they will refer you to someone that can help! Billy Clyde |
Thanks BC Y’all have helped me quite a bit. Going down to Nashville next week and try to get that thing just to hold air. Think you have steered me now on a direction that can bear fruit. Stay tuned and Happy Thanksgiving my friend. Hardy |
Just to clarify Hardy, the diagram of 3 piece wheel posted is not a true illustration of our BBS wheels.
The Jaguar BBS rim component is actually a single piece, not two as shown. The wheel centre is part two and third part is simply the stainless steel trim ring. |
Thank you Baxter, I had always heard it described as a 2 piece. Should save some confusion when I call these guys next week. Gobble gobble 😊 |
Originally Posted by Hroberts
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Thank you Baxter, I had always heard it described as a 2 piece. Should save some confusion when I call these guys next week. Gobble gobble 😊 |
The leaking rim is probably caused by a failed o-ring on the inflation bolt. You will need a 4-square or 12 point metric bit to fit the bolt ( and the rest of the screws too). Forgot the size, might be a 7 mm.. Unscrew the inflation bolt and replace the o-ring, lubing it with grease when you screw it back in. The old one is probably damaged from messing with the wheel screws. As others have said, the wheel drum is complete and self contained, it needs nothing to seal it to the tire. The titanium bolts are only used to fasten the center spider to the drum..
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If you sell them on ebay, they go for around $900 each. Rears are more.
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I should tell you that the spider bolts are fairly low torque, about 30 ft lbs. Don't overdo them.
Just guessing, if you are a wheel shop in Kentucky, you probably will not have a 7mm, 4 square bit, you will jury rig it and not get full torque when removing the bolts...the kiss of death! These bolts are very strong, being titanium, but they are loctited in, so they need a very firm steady torque to remove them. NO loose wrenches. |
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