convertible top issues
Closing the top this afternoon, it began squeaking very loud and straining? I stopped with the switch, gave it a few seconds to rest and it continued to shut but with a lot of straining sounds. Any ideas? Thanks.
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You are low on hydraulic fluid. Mine does exactly the same thing when it is low. You need to add fluid to the pump reservoir. Now finding out why you are low is another issue, but that straining, groaning, struggling noise will disappear if the reservoir and the lines are full.
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be careful moonpetal, the first time I heard groaning in my convertible top, i could not get it to close until the next day. Before you go 'topless' again, be sure you've found what really is the cause.
The system should not technically lose any fluid, and if it has, it needs to be going somewhere...that usually is at the latch above your head where she clamps down, or those two rams/pistons that push and pull the top open and closed. Now the latch, if you've read up on your FAQ threads, you'll remember as being the weak point in all of the 97-2003 convertible systems, and most of us have had to replace our lines to prevent, or in response to a busted hose at that latch. The second weak point is the ram/piston. They have seals, and over time (and with pressure surges) will fail and leak. That was the problem with mine....horrible groaning when trying to put the top up...I shudder just thinking about it. |
Now your just plain scaring me. :) I guess hubby has another project. Thanks a bunch.
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Hubby can't find any obvious leaks. He is noticing that the rubber covering around the hoses is flaking off. He notices that the lines are slippery therefore thinking that perhaps there is a bit of seepage. He topped off the fluids which were a little low, lowered and raised the top a couple of times, checked the fluids again, and again they went back down to the previous level, so he topped it off again. He did this once more, and the fluids went back down. Any advice? Thanks!!
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Have a look on the ground under the car to see if any of the fluid is leaking there. Near the rear wheels.
Also, is there any evidence of fluid leaking from the headliner sort of near the rear view mirror. Any discoloration of the headliner there that looks like fluid? Any drips there? Jack |
No visible leaks anywhere. Not under the car or by the mirror. Also, he wants to know if we should be concerned about installing a pressure reduction valve. Thanks.
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Do not panic yet; check your fluid level first. This link to the hyd system may help. XK8/R Hydraulic System Evaluation
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You obviously have a leak. Since I think you would have hollered if it was pouring out of the upper console I suspect that one or both of your top raising rams has blown a seal. Look under the car in front of each rear tire for oil dampness. One other thought; Jaguar used for a short period of time a splice kit to save labor on hose replacement that had a bad habit of failing. The splice was made under the left hand fascia fuse panel so check the carpet in the driver foot well.
Looks like Hubby has a project. I've got to go now and paint a window. |
He's acting a little frustrated at this point. Guess I will leave him alone for a bit while he thinks things through. I love being topless tho. lol
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Give him a break and when he comes back refreshed and mind cleared, good things will happen. Sometimes a new perspective is all it takes. How much of the back seat has he disassembled? Has he gotten to the rams so he can visually see them?
I thought I remembered someone saying fluid leaking from the ram ended up under the back seat (guess it follows the wheel well into the interior). Two bolts under the front lip and that bottom cushion should come right out. |
We found fluid under the rear tire today. How can I get to the rams to look them over? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by moonpetal38
(Post 464647)
We found fluid under the rear tire today. How can I get to the rams to look them over? Thanks.
-Pull off the vinyl stud caps at the lower front of the seat cushions -Remove the two 10mm nuts at the lower front of the seat cushions -Undo the two snaps over the rear center seat belt latch ‘gloves’ -Lift up the front of the seat cushion while carefully easing the center seatbelt latches through the leather ‘glove’ while pulling the bottom cushion free. Do this gently to avoid tearing the fabric. Remove the rear seat back. -Remove the two Phillips screws at each shoulder belt guide and let the shoulder belt glides drop in front of the rear cushion. -Remove the two Phillips screws at the under-cushion brackets. -Lift out the rear cushion. -Be careful, the metal panel behind the seat back is sharp at the top edge and can cut you. Remove the top rear quarter panel trim. -Pop off the front seatbelt bracket cover -Remove the large seatbelt bracket Torx bolt -Remove the two phillps screws and tonneau cover bolt/fastener on the top rear quarter trim -Slide trim forward and lift up and undo electrical connector (if any). Remove rear speaker cover trim panel. -Remove the black plastic headliner fastener -Carefully pull out trim bottom from metal door threshold -Slide trim forward to remove You should be able to see enough at this point. To actually replace the rams, the rear speakers and the black 1/8 circle tubular stablizer bars also have to be removed. |
You are the best. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by test point
(Post 461794)
You obviously have a leak. Since I think you would have hollered if it was pouring out of the upper console I suspect that one or both of your top raising rams has blown a seal. Look under the car in front of each rear tire for oil dampness. One other thought; Jaguar used for a short period of time a splice kit to save labor on hose replacement that had a bad habit of failing. The splice was made under the left hand fascia fuse panel so check the carpet in the driver foot well.
Looks like Hubby has a project. I've got to go now and paint a window. |
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