any way to disable spoiler on ftype?
#141
In the US, they can only be raised manually at a stop. If he questions it, just say (at a stop) that you can raise or lower with that button. It's true! (While you are stopped...)
But I also don't like how it cuts out the bottom 1/2 of the view. I think that is ~why~ it can't be raised or lowered at will?
But I also don't like how it cuts out the bottom 1/2 of the view. I think that is ~why~ it can't be raised or lowered at will?
#142
In the US, they can only be raised manually at a stop. If he questions it, just say (at a stop) that you can raise or lower with that button. It's true! (While you are stopped...)
But I also don't like how it cuts out the bottom 1/2 of the view. I think that is ~why~ it can't be raised or lowered at will?
But I also don't like how it cuts out the bottom 1/2 of the view. I think that is ~why~ it can't be raised or lowered at will?
#143
The benefits of added downforce above 70MPH outweigh the aesthetic or minor sight differences out the back for me. Personally, I like the techno cool factor of auto deploying spoiler :-)
CRS
#144
Connectors
No codes / error lights that have popped up so far. If I push the spoiler button, there is an error that pops up that says "spoiler not available" since it is disconnected when the toggle is off but if you toggle it back on, the error goes away when you turn off / on the car as it is reconnected and goes up/down as it should.
The pushbutton obviously isn't normally in there, all part of what I installed. You would have to take the top cover off to do the work that needs to be done to make it possible... that's just the most convenient spot I found to insert the switch I used so I didn't have to drill / cut anything.
The pushbutton obviously isn't normally in there, all part of what I installed. You would have to take the top cover off to do the work that needs to be done to make it possible... that's just the most convenient spot I found to insert the switch I used so I didn't have to drill / cut anything.
#145
Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I have had this on my list of things to investigate - in Germany the speed limit on normal highways is 100km/h and that's when the spoiler goes up. 120km/h would be much nicer in my opinion.
I was looking through the spoiler functional documentation from the official source and saw that:
In case the spoiler is not functional, probably detected by a failure of the end of travel switches (up, down) to be activated, this results in a number of autonomous decisions by the main control unit: 1. Max Speed is set to 216km/h 2. DSC is activated even if deselected by driver.
Looks like just disabling the motor connection is not the way to go.
How is this done if you install the Piecha fixed wing spoiler?
This information was for the F-Type convertible, though.
I was looking through the spoiler functional documentation from the official source and saw that:
In case the spoiler is not functional, probably detected by a failure of the end of travel switches (up, down) to be activated, this results in a number of autonomous decisions by the main control unit: 1. Max Speed is set to 216km/h 2. DSC is activated even if deselected by driver.
Looks like just disabling the motor connection is not the way to go.
How is this done if you install the Piecha fixed wing spoiler?
This information was for the F-Type convertible, though.
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15FTypeR (08-08-2017)
#146
Ok, so here is my 2 cents - I personally like the spoiler. I was driving behind my wife on the freeway, and I did not find it to be at all bad looking, infact I think it suits the car pretty well. As far as rear vision is concerned, yes, it does reduce it a bit, but the toip half of the rear window still gives plenty of visibility. In the words of Raul Julia in the amazing 1976 Gumball Rally "whats a behind me is not important"!
Personally, I am never going to mess with it. If it is prone to paint damage, have it covered in SunTex or Xpel. It does catch a bunch of dirt, so essential to clean at every wash.
Cheers
Personally, I am never going to mess with it. If it is prone to paint damage, have it covered in SunTex or Xpel. It does catch a bunch of dirt, so essential to clean at every wash.
Cheers
#147
Myself I like very much this feature, makes the car a more living creature. Like the Pagani Hueira or other super cars that have some moving aerodynamic spoiler or braking aid part. Is also a very airplane like flap feeling, makes you a more pilot of the beast. Gives a more dramatic and theatrical shape. My son that studies for automotive design insists that the coupe version spoiler is a bit too short and central and could be more sophisticated.
But I like the thing. Makes this Jaguar, especially the Coupe desirable to watch and to play with. My opinion
But I like the thing. Makes this Jaguar, especially the Coupe desirable to watch and to play with. My opinion
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Mbourne (04-16-2017)
#148
The new Panamera spoiler works widening after opening up, gaining width in both sides, interesting. Could be an example for the F-Type. Clever and functional, at same time cooler as a design. I would appreciate this solution! Would satisfy my son's opposition on the F-Type small spoiler in the coupe too...
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#149
ok so I don't want to jump the gun on this but in preparation for installing my GT spoiler from Piecha (I didn't want to cut the metal rods as the instructions stated), I played around with the wiring for the rear spoiler. I still need to road test it this weekend to make sure it's fully disabled but I made a little harness with an interrupt toggle and hid it under the trunk close button.
It seemed like the connector below is what was providing power to the motor assembly and without it, the motor is dead... I used that as my target point for the harness.
The harness interrupts the power going from this connection directly to the motor. Without it, it shouldn't move. Since I didn't want it permanent, I used a 15A toggle which would either allow me to provide power to the motor or not, depending on the direction of the toggle (on/off pretty much). This is where I hid the toggle. I just pull out the trunk button and my toggle is right inside. Out of the way, clean, unseen.
Finding a male & female version of that power connector was sort of a pain in the *** but I didn't want to do any cutting / splicing of the motor electric system. I'll post more details about it after I road test it to make sure it works as intended.
It seemed like the connector below is what was providing power to the motor assembly and without it, the motor is dead... I used that as my target point for the harness.
The harness interrupts the power going from this connection directly to the motor. Without it, it shouldn't move. Since I didn't want it permanent, I used a 15A toggle which would either allow me to provide power to the motor or not, depending on the direction of the toggle (on/off pretty much). This is where I hid the toggle. I just pull out the trunk button and my toggle is right inside. Out of the way, clean, unseen.
Finding a male & female version of that power connector was sort of a pain in the *** but I didn't want to do any cutting / splicing of the motor electric system. I'll post more details about it after I road test it to make sure it works as intended.
Nice!
Where is this black connector located?
How did you access this connector?
Thanks
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Was it a simple plug and play or did it require any cutting/splicing? Any chance you could make me one of those?
#153
Now someone needs to be a real trailblazer and come up with a clean way to relocate that switch somewhere in the cockpit, so the spoiler can be activated/deactivated while driving.
#154
Just what I was thinking too! (Although I am certainly not the one to do it...) If someone steps up, lemme know! I'm sure someone here could do that..
#155
I believe once the car decides "spoiler unavailable" it might not care if you turned the switch back on - meaning the car might need to be 'rebooted' to recognize it again.
When I get a chance I will run a long wire to the driver seat and test the theory/concept.
Also going to research the control system and see what I can do to make it fully manual
When I get a chance I will run a long wire to the driver seat and test the theory/concept.
Also going to research the control system and see what I can do to make it fully manual
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For all those worried about a disabled rear spoiler causing problems at high speed, see this Aussie recall: https://www.productsafety.gov.au/rec...5-rear-spoiler
Based on that, the rear spoiler isn't needed to be raised until 217 km/h (135 mph).
My car falls in the listed range of VINs but I have no idea if it was ever applied and in any event it doesn't matter any more if it was or wasn't.
Based on that, the rear spoiler isn't needed to be raised until 217 km/h (135 mph).
My car falls in the listed range of VINs but I have no idea if it was ever applied and in any event it doesn't matter any more if it was or wasn't.
#157
For all those worried about a disabled rear spoiler causing problems at high speed, see this Aussie recall: https://www.productsafety.gov.au/rec...5-rear-spoiler
Based on that, the rear spoiler isn't needed to be raised until 217 km/h (135 mph).
My car falls in the listed range of VINs but I have no idea if it was ever applied and in any event it doesn't matter any more if it was or wasn't.
Based on that, the rear spoiler isn't needed to be raised until 217 km/h (135 mph).
My car falls in the listed range of VINs but I have no idea if it was ever applied and in any event it doesn't matter any more if it was or wasn't.
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Must be some pretty fast running lobsters out your way!
In my neck of the woods they are called crayfish and they are way too big to run that fast: http://resources3.news.com.au/images...55-andonas.jpg
In my neck of the woods they are called crayfish and they are way too big to run that fast: http://resources3.news.com.au/images...55-andonas.jpg
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Must be some pretty fast running lobsters out your way!
In my neck of the woods they are called crayfish and they are way too big to run that fast: http://resources3.news.com.au/images...55-andonas.jpg
In my neck of the woods they are called crayfish and they are way too big to run that fast: http://resources3.news.com.au/images...55-andonas.jpg
We usually get our crayfish from the Gulf of Mexico, not from cooling water ponds next to a nuclear power plant.
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