Who wants a 14" nav screen with HDMI input
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Who wants a 14" nav screen with HDMI input
Yeah, just kidding. It's not really practical, but fun project anyway.
https://goo.gl/photos/ZugrMsSthJ9C8xXR9
https://goo.gl/photos/ZugrMsSthJ9C8xXR9
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Now shrunk to a more reasonable 7" display size. Hopefully this would fit in the factory display unit. The screen is 1280x800 with analog and HDMI input. I used the VGA input for the nav video signal.
Compared to the stock unit there is a slight improvement in the horizontal resolution 692x232 compared to 480x232 in the stock screen, not a huge leap in image quality.
However with phone screen mirroring it should be quite gorgeous.
https://goo.gl/photos/U8hS5YpeFzRJHW2Q9
Compared to the stock unit there is a slight improvement in the horizontal resolution 692x232 compared to 480x232 in the stock screen, not a huge leap in image quality.
However with phone screen mirroring it should be quite gorgeous.
https://goo.gl/photos/U8hS5YpeFzRJHW2Q9
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some setback, unfortunately the new screen would not fit in place of the old one - it is a tad longer and the tolerances are very tight.
There is a pesky LED touch controller assembly which fits within a millimeter from the screen. I don't know how you guys managed to fit a touch membrane on the screen everything is so tight.
So the old plan was to replace the screen and the LCD controller board with my new board and new screen; just connect the analog RGB signals and power to the new board.
The new plan is to remove the whole LED touch controller and replace it with a new touch membrane (hopefully I can find a capacitive membrane that can do multi-touch) and emulate the old LED controller interface. This could keep me busy for a while.
There is a pesky LED touch controller assembly which fits within a millimeter from the screen. I don't know how you guys managed to fit a touch membrane on the screen everything is so tight.
So the old plan was to replace the screen and the LCD controller board with my new board and new screen; just connect the analog RGB signals and power to the new board.
The new plan is to remove the whole LED touch controller and replace it with a new touch membrane (hopefully I can find a capacitive membrane that can do multi-touch) and emulate the old LED controller interface. This could keep me busy for a while.
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i was able to do it took out the stock lcd and put a 1280x720 hd screen the quality is notacible compared to factory but you can still use stock not a deal breaker,
here what it looks like my camera going in and out of focus at night
better focus
here what it looks like my camera going in and out of focus at night
better focus
Last edited by dennis black; 12-19-2015 at 05:20 PM.
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Hi veffremov, I've previously been looking at the lcd control board you have pictured in your first post and was wondering whether it would be compatible with the OEM video signals.
Are you feeding the RGBS signals directly from the output of the dvd nav into the VGA port of the controller? Did you have to split the composite sync into H & V or does it accept composite sync directly?
I've been wondering whether any of the cheap 7" panels as found on eBay would fit as a replacement into the head unit, but sounds like it's very tight tolerance and might need a specific type of panel to fit. I've not yet seen any evidence of anyone actually replacing the standard lcd with a higher resolution panel but that's what I would like to try if the right panel type can be found that fits.
Ben
Are you feeding the RGBS signals directly from the output of the dvd nav into the VGA port of the controller? Did you have to split the composite sync into H & V or does it accept composite sync directly?
I've been wondering whether any of the cheap 7" panels as found on eBay would fit as a replacement into the head unit, but sounds like it's very tight tolerance and might need a specific type of panel to fit. I've not yet seen any evidence of anyone actually replacing the standard lcd with a higher resolution panel but that's what I would like to try if the right panel type can be found that fits.
Ben
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You can feed the rgb+s into the vga, no need to split the sync. The sync goes where the horizontal sync would be on the vga.
The issue is that most vga controllers would not recognize the signal as one of the standard vga modes and refuse to display it. I had to modify the LCD controller firmware to make it work.
Most 7" panels are slightly too tall for the job, hence my question to Dennis, what panel did he use.
The issue is that most vga controllers would not recognize the signal as one of the standard vga modes and refuse to display it. I had to modify the LCD controller firmware to make it work.
Most 7" panels are slightly too tall for the job, hence my question to Dennis, what panel did he use.
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Dennis is a genius @this stuff, but to a mute point, because, & I've actually said this in a couple of HIS threads, you'll NEVER get an answer from that guy. Seems he just like us to "see" what he has, but not have it...
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You can feed the rgb+s into the vga, no need to split the sync. The sync goes where the horizontal sync would be on the vga.
The issue is that most vga controllers would not recognize the signal as one of the standard vga modes and refuse to display it. I had to modify the LCD controller firmware to make it work.
Most 7" panels are slightly too tall for the job, hence my question to Dennis, what panel did he use.
The issue is that most vga controllers would not recognize the signal as one of the standard vga modes and refuse to display it. I had to modify the LCD controller firmware to make it work.
Most 7" panels are slightly too tall for the job, hence my question to Dennis, what panel did he use.
The other thing I was wondering about this specific controller is how easy it is to switch inputs? I was hoping it would be possible to use the HDMI input from an android tablet, and the VGA input from the OEM RGBS feed and switch between the two easily without having to navigate menus or cycle through multiple inputs. Do you know if it's possible to use an external 'input select' line to directly select each input? Ideally wanting to trigger the input select from a separate microcontroller to activate HDMI when NAV is pressed and RGBS when TEL/AUDIO/CLIMATE is pressed.
The other difficulty sounds like getting a screen with the right dimensions to fit. I don't suppose you have any photos of the head unit without the bezel so the panel is visible, or the OEM panel dimensions?
Originally Posted by Marque
Dennis is a genius @this stuff, but to a mute point, because, & I've actually said this in a couple of HIS threads, you'll NEVER get an answer from that guy. Seems he just like us to "see" what he has, but not have it...
Ben
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The OEM screen is 480x232 pixels - it was probably top of the line back in 2001 when it was engineered ;-)
The RGB signal is regular NTSC (15kHz dot clock). The screen just stretches it horizontally.
I use the same controller, it is known as PCB800099. You can check my github project how to program the firmware: https://github.com/ghent360/RTD-2660-Programmer
The keyboard, it comes with, has a button that switches the inputs or you can use the IR remote.
The OEM screen is 167.05x102mm - there is only 1-2mm clearance around it. The screen active area is 154.1x87mm
The RGB signal is regular NTSC (15kHz dot clock). The screen just stretches it horizontally.
I use the same controller, it is known as PCB800099. You can check my github project how to program the firmware: https://github.com/ghent360/RTD-2660-Programmer
The keyboard, it comes with, has a button that switches the inputs or you can use the IR remote.
The OEM screen is 167.05x102mm - there is only 1-2mm clearance around it. The screen active area is 154.1x87mm
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Thanks for the info, you clearly know your stuff and its great that you are willing to share your firmware modification, many thanks!
I found this LCD panel: LCD Screen Panel Display For 7 Inch Tablet 50 pin 7300101466 E231732 | eBay which is only 1mm taller, but it is not quite as wide. Difficult to know whether the active screen area would still remain within the bezel as they don't show this dimension.
Do you think that the extra 1mm would prevent it from fitting or could it be squeezed in there?
Actually, searching that part number has brought up this: Aliexpress.com : Buy 7 inch tablet lcd screen 50 pin 7300101466 E231732 lcd display screen from Reliable screen international suppliers on DongYuDa trade co., LTD | Alibaba Group
which shows the dimensions as 165x100mm, and does detail the active screen dimensions as 157.5x89.5mm.
If these dimensions are correct then it appears it might fit, but as it's the same model as the ebay one but with different dimensions who knows which is correct!
Ben
I found this LCD panel: LCD Screen Panel Display For 7 Inch Tablet 50 pin 7300101466 E231732 | eBay which is only 1mm taller, but it is not quite as wide. Difficult to know whether the active screen area would still remain within the bezel as they don't show this dimension.
Do you think that the extra 1mm would prevent it from fitting or could it be squeezed in there?
Actually, searching that part number has brought up this: Aliexpress.com : Buy 7 inch tablet lcd screen 50 pin 7300101466 E231732 lcd display screen from Reliable screen international suppliers on DongYuDa trade co., LTD | Alibaba Group
which shows the dimensions as 165x100mm, and does detail the active screen dimensions as 157.5x89.5mm.
If these dimensions are correct then it appears it might fit, but as it's the same model as the ebay one but with different dimensions who knows which is correct!
Ben
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well i was trying to do a write up for you guy its not that easy just posting information then you guys do it and burn your set up , it takes time ive made mistakes and learned from them i dont want you guys to go throught what i went through, i finally figured it out ,just got to do a good write so anyone can do it without damaging there unit,you have to install an inverter and a few odds and ends
screens are same size the new one is 1280x800 ,im trying a few other screens also for comparison,resitive and capacitive,i find capacitive has more funcions like pinch to zoom,
when you see the youtube videos there all test untill im satisfied with its functions
heres a few set ups
im also working on my 2010 lexus gs350 set up
screens are same size the new one is 1280x800 ,im trying a few other screens also for comparison,resitive and capacitive,i find capacitive has more funcions like pinch to zoom,
when you see the youtube videos there all test untill im satisfied with its functions
heres a few set ups
im also working on my 2010 lexus gs350 set up
Last edited by dennis black; 01-24-2016 at 09:35 AM.