F-Type ( X152 ) 2014 - Onwards

2016 R AWD Problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 16, 2018 | 07:57 AM
  #1  
Gregg16AWDR's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Angry 2016 R AWD Problems

I have taken my car in 4 times already and this problem is persisting. Symptoms:

1. Excessive wheel spin on brand new tires - even in 90F heat! Running Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in summer and Pirelli Sotozero in winter. Regardless of mode: rain/snow,regular, or dynamic - if you floor it from a standstill the rear wheels seem to spin forever, probably 100ft or so.

2. When driving on icy hill, car will try to engage the front wheels because the rear has no traction. When this happens the AWD TURNS OFF! Message in display says "Warning, Reduced Traction - 2WD Mode Only". Now my wife is stuck in our driveway and our children have to push her car up the hill.

Dealership claims the car is working as intended, on one service visit they took a sample of oil from the torque converter and found metal shavings, so they replaced this component but the problems still persist. I tried to explain to them that the F-type is raced in Europe on ice for God sake and there is no way an all wheel drive car that turns off the AWD is working correctly.

Please help!! If anyone had this and had some resolution please let me know.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2018 | 08:39 AM
  #2  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Definitely not right. Time to take it to a different dealer for assessment.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2018 | 03:22 PM
  #3  
ndabunka's Avatar
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,260
Likes: 157
From: Charlotte, North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Gregg16AWDR
I have taken my car in 4 times already and this problem is persisting. Symptoms:

1. Excessive wheel spin on brand new tires - even in 90F heat! Running Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in summer and Pirelli Sotozero in winter. Regardless of mode: rain/snow,regular, or dynamic - if you floor it from a standstill the rear wheels seem to spin forever, probably 100ft or so.
NOT RIGHT. Are you saying that you have taken the Jag Service Manager for a ride and done this? If not, do so that he/she can experience the flaw.

Originally Posted by Gregg16AWDR
2. When driving on icy hill, car will try to engage the front wheels because the rear has no traction. When this happens the AWD TURNS OFF! Message in display says "Warning, Reduced Traction - 2WD Mode Only". Now my wife is stuck in our driveway and our children have to push her car up the hill.
Just being AWD isn't enough in colder temps to drive on icy surfaces. The Pirelli tires on this car are not designed for temps under 32 degrees so if you TRULY are driving it in temps below freezing you should have a separate set of winter tires which would likely correct this experience (perhaps your Sotozeros?). If this still occurs with the winter tires then you DO have an issue. Again, take the service manager to the spot where it occurs and replicate for his/her exposure.

Good luck!
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2018 | 05:16 PM
  #4  
Gregg16AWDR's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Default

In summer we spin on Michelin PS4S, In winter on dry roads @ 45F we spin on Pirelli Soto-zeroes. I'm waiting for another ice storm to show them the AWD is not working correctly. My wife is furious, we traded in her Mercedes AWD E400 Coupe for the F-Type and she has zero confidence in the snow/ice/rain now.

The other thing I can do every time is on snow turn off traction control, crank the steering wheel to one side and floor it. Every time you do this the AWD system disengages. The sales manager told me the cars programming does this because it is smart enough to know I want to do doughnuts? I dunno... In a Nissan GTR you can do that exact same maneuver and the AWD doesn't turn off.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2018 | 06:40 AM
  #5  
Joseph Ippolito's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 58
Likes: 17
Default

Originally Posted by Gregg16AWDR
The other thing I can do every time is on snow turn off traction control, crank the steering wheel to one side and floor it. Every time you do this the AWD system disengages. The sales manager told me the cars programming does this because it is smart enough to know I want to do doughnuts? I dunno... In a Nissan GTR you can do that exact same maneuver and the AWD doesn't turn off.
I’ve done this several times, in several different parking lots after a good snow in Minneapolis and I have never once gotten the AWD system to disengage or throw any kinds of errors. This is on a ‘16 coupe S AWD. I’ve done it with both tcs on and off - off let’s you do donuts, on makes you look like an idiot, but no errors either way.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2018 | 04:35 PM
  #6  
Chawumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 800
Likes: 243
From: So Cal
Default

Man, those heavy, complicated 4wd systems break down? Who could'da node?
 
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2018 | 11:19 AM
  #7  
Don1954's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 475
Likes: 40
From: New Orleans
Default

Move to Europe?
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2022 | 06:58 PM
  #8  
FTYPENY's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

Did you ever figure out what the issue was? I have a 2021 with the exact same issue. Been to the dealership 5 times for this issue. They replaced the transfer case and it didn't solve the problem. They are now giving me the BS answer of we ran it by Corporate and said this is normal behavior. Pretty much telling me we just don't want to deal with this anymore. This is my second dealership. The first one didn't even go beyond just telling me that I must be driving to hard. At this point I don't know what to do anymore. Would love to know if you ever got this resolved and what the issue was
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2022 | 08:56 PM
  #9  
Craaaazzy's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 459
Likes: 175
From: Georgia
Default

Could you go test drive another F-type? If it’s normal, then you should be able to duplicate this with any of the dealer’s cars.
 
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2022 | 05:43 AM
  #10  
Whatsnext's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 596
Likes: 133
From: AZ
Default

I also own a 2016 R model and although no snow in AZ, I cannot get the tires to spin for the life of me. I even turn off traction and floor it but the car just takes off with no wheel spin. I would suggest what Craaaazzy said and test drive another one and see if you can replicate which I doubt you could get it to do.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2025 | 11:49 AM
  #11  
Jimmy567's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
Default 16 R with same problem

Originally Posted by Gregg16AWDR
I have taken my car in 4 times already and this problem is persisting. Symptoms:

1. Excessive wheel spin on brand new tires - even in 90F heat! Running Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in summer and Pirelli Sotozero in winter. Regardless of mode: rain/snow,regular, or dynamic - if you floor it from a standstill the rear wheels seem to spin forever, probably 100ft or so.

2. When driving on icy hill, car will try to engage the front wheels because the rear has no traction. When this happens the AWD TURNS OFF! Message in display says "Warning, Reduced Traction - 2WD Mode Only". Now my wife is stuck in our driveway and our children have to push her car up the hill.

Dealership claims the car is working as intended, on one service visit they took a sample of oil from the torque converter and found metal shavings, so they replaced this component but the problems still persist. I tried to explain to them that the F-type is raced in Europe on ice for God sake and there is no way an all wheel drive car that turns off the AWD is working correctly.

Please help!! If anyone had this and had some resolution please let me know.
have you solved this problem? I have 16 R with brand new PS4s tires and I can’t get any traction on first gear full send.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2025 | 08:00 PM
  #12  
Evoex's Avatar
Senior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2024
Posts: 250
Likes: 106
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Jimmy567
have you solved this problem? I have 16 R with brand new PS4s tires and I can’t get any traction on first gear full send.
I assume you warmed them up?
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2025 | 08:05 PM
  #13  
Jimmy567's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Evoex
I assume you warmed them up?
yeah at least for like 30mins
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2025 | 08:57 PM
  #14  
Evoex's Avatar
Senior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2024
Posts: 250
Likes: 106
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

Yeah weird, i have PS4S and once warmed up i have to be doing some gnarly stuff to get the T/C to come up much. Certainly not on 1st gear pulls.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2025 | 08:59 PM
  #15  
Jimmy567's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Evoex
Yeah weird, i have PS4S and once warmed up i have to be doing some gnarly stuff to get the T/C to come up much. Certainly not on 1st gear pulls.
I have a feeling that my front wheels are functioning so basically something is wrong with my AWD system
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 07:32 AM
  #16  
Craaaazzy's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 459
Likes: 175
From: Georgia
Default

Is your car tuned?

I’ve got a 2015 and have no issues with traction but I also don’t “floor it from a standstill”. We don’t have launch control so if i immediately floor it, i can and will get the rear to break loose. I’m not sure about the awd system…others can speak to that if they floor it immediately.

what happens when you ease into the throttle, does it break loose after xxxx rpm’s?
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 08:48 AM
  #17  
Evoex's Avatar
Senior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2024
Posts: 250
Likes: 106
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Craaaazzy
Is your car tuned?

I’ve got a 2015 and have no issues with traction but I also don’t “floor it from a standstill”. We don’t have launch control so if i immediately floor it, i can and will get the rear to break loose. I’m not sure about the awd system…others can speak to that if they floor it immediately.

what happens when you ease into the throttle, does it break loose after xxxx rpm’s?
Good point. I never launch it per say, I always ease into the throttle to get the car moving then floor it - AWD
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 08:49 AM
  #18  
Jimmy567's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Evoex
Good point. I never launch it per say, I always ease into the throttle to get the car moving then floor it - AWD
I have 16 f type r and I have not change transmissions oil and transfer case fluid yet. I’m assuming maybe that’s why the power does that separate evenly to the front?
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 09:33 AM
  #19  
Evoex's Avatar
Senior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2024
Posts: 250
Likes: 106
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Jimmy567
I have 16 f type r and I have not change transmissions oil and transfer case fluid yet. I’m assuming maybe that’s why the power does that separate evenly to the front?
May be worth a try. I did transmission fluid service and rear diff oil change after I bought the car.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 09:34 AM
  #20  
Jimmy567's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Evoex
May be worth a try. I did transmission fluid service and rear diff oil change after I bought the car.
at what kilometers? And what year is your car?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 AM.