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Just curious. Since I've had such a hard time finding my F type here in Kansas City (yes, I'm being picky and pickings are slim), I've started looking at other sporty coupes, as a 'possible' alternative for my next daily.
I have to be honest, the search has been frustrating and some recent youtube videos and some research have me considering the Mercedes AMG C43 or C63. II hope to test drive one this weekend. The C43 would be better for me as a daily as its AWD for our Kansas City winters, but that C63 sure is sexy.
Both models, used, can be had for about the same price as a well specked F type. On paper, the C43 is very similar in horsepower with even more torque than the S. The C63 is close to the R in HP and torque as well.
Did anyone here consider the either of these models prior to purchasing their F type? What was the final determining factor that swayed you to the F type?
yes. drove all 3Cars. The F type. Is by far. A different animal.
I am a 2019 C63S owner and I'm looking to pick up a SVR as a second car.
To be honest, the F-type had not really been on my radar at all until I test drove one. The exhaust sound blew me away and I knew I wanted to own one for a bit.
They are very different cars however, hence why I'm not selling the C63S. I have the sedan and it's a much better all-in-one daily. The technology in it is definitely better and I prefer the interior design. The SVR is very quick, and given the AWD far faster from a dig, but to me the C63S feels faster. The AMG 9-speed auto is much better than the ZF in the Jag which is kind of sluggish. And I believe once both cars are going, the AMG might be faster - (look at 0-150mph tests in Car and Driver)... not surprising though given similar horsepower but the Mercedes is lighter since it is RWD. I have no comment on driving dynamics as living in straight-line TX, I did not get to do any serious curves in my test drives. I do enjoy the oversteer in the C63S.
It all doesn't matter much though, the exhaust on the F-type completely sold me. This is a car with CHARACTER and that reason is also why I chose the C63S over the M3/RS5. I'd like to own something like this with a good old fashioned big displacement V8 before all the cars turn into muted hybrid turbo 4's...
As for looks, from the front I actually prefer the facelift C63S, mainly because the vertical Panamericana grille looks pretty mean and the car stands out from the regular C-class. The F-type is a bit more subtle from the front, not that it's a bad thing. From the back, F-type wins hands down, especially with the SVR wing and diffuser.
Here are some pics of my AMG:
I am not knocking the C series AMG but really, you just cannot compare it to an F-Type. One look should make things rather obvious. The AMG looks like every other MB sedan (A,C,E) albeit it’s star is bigger, oh, and some even light up at night and you do have the rear badge and red calipers and your iPad super glued to your dash. Yet, still, the dozens that you will encounter on the way to your supermarket will all look rather similar. Which is ok I guess. It is what it is, a four door sedan and serves an entirely different purpose than any two seater.
However, the real purpose of my comments was to ask you how you came about determining that the ZF trans in the F-Type is sluggish. Sluggish? I find that rather puzzling. I have only owned somewhere around fifty cars in my lifetime and while I did not buy an F-Type because of how it sounds, I will tell you I think the ZF trans in the Jag is perhaps one of the best trans I have ever driven. Yes, I’ve had dual clutch, PDK, manual and auto and at least in my car the ZF is one of the best features of my car.
Not arguing but I would actually agree that the zf auto in my F Type is laggy. It is sharper in my missus' 2020 XE.
That said, the ZF (which is a gorgeous transmission - I wouldnt buy a dual clutch) in the F Type is a huge improvement on the 6 speed ZF in the XKR I had before it. It was really the standout difference when I test drove the car, maybe because I wasnt expecting much as I tended to think 8 gears was too many for a sports car.
Isn't it the case that the Jag ZF adjusts itself to your driving style so if you've been pottering about for a while it takes a few goes to wake it up? Once it's awake it's snappy as you like.
I am not knocking the C series AMG but really, you just cannot compare it to an F-Type. One look should make things rather obvious. The AMG looks like every other MB sedan (A,C,E) albeit it’s star is bigger, oh, and some even light up at night and you do have the rear badge and red calipers and your iPad super glued to your dash. Yet, still, the dozens that you will encounter on the way to your supermarket will all look rather similar. Which is ok I guess. It is what it is, a four door sedan and serves an entirely different purpose than any two seater.
However, the real purpose of my comments was to ask you how you came about determining that the ZF trans in the F-Type is sluggish. Sluggish? I find that rather puzzling. I have only owned somewhere around fifty cars in my lifetime and while I did not buy an F-Type because of how it sounds, I will tell you I think the ZF trans in the Jag is perhaps one of the best trans I have ever driven. Yes, I’ve had dual clutch, PDK, manual and auto and at least in my car the ZF is one of the best features of my car.
George
Well, sluggish is a relative term right? I was quite disappointed with the ZF in the 17 SVR I tested because I know the ZF is pretty snappy in other cars. Not sure if it was just a bad example or what.
Just on the PDK point, I find it hard to believe anyone would compare the PDK to the ZF... the PDK is the absolute best auto in the business. It's just as good as the Ferrari F1.
Also no need to knock the C63. Looks are all subjective. I could say the same of the F-type, all the F-types look the same. There is very little to distinguish the SVR from lower models. The C63 is pretty distinctive - there's no way a car guy mistakes it with the different wheels, grille, and wider body. This four seater also laps C&D's Lightning Lap faster than the new 2021 F-type R so you tell me what the purpose of your two seater is
And so am I...the shifts in my F-type are literally instantaneous.
Mine shifts quickly (and is beautifully smooth) but is laggy with kickdown in auto mode. But then I use mine as a daily and I do a fair amount of driving in moderate traffic, maybe it is adjusted for gentleness.
Mine shifts quickly (and is beautifully smooth) but is laggy with kickdown in auto mode. But then I use mine as a daily and I do a fair amount of driving in moderate traffic, maybe it is adjusted for gentleness.
Yup the laggy kickdown was exactly the biggest issue in the SVR I tested. It does make for a gentler/smoother driving experience, which is not unappreciated. But it took away a bit from the violent experience I expected given how nasty and awesome the exhaust sounded
Well, sluggish is a relative term right? I was quite disappointed with the ZF in the 17 SVR I tested because I know the ZF is pretty snappy in other cars. Not sure if it was just a bad example or what.
Just on the PDK point, I find it hard to believe anyone would compare the PDK to the ZF... the PDK is the absolute best auto in the business. It's just as good as the Ferrari F1.
Also no need to knock the C63. Looks are all subjective. I could say the same of the F-type, all the F-types look the same. There is very little to distinguish the SVR from lower models. The C63 is pretty distinctive - there's no way a car guy mistakes it with the different wheels, grille, and wider body. This four seater also laps C&D's Lightning Lap faster than the new 2021 F-type R so you tell me what the purpose of your two seater is
Perhaps you misread my post but in it I clearly stated that the ZF trans is one of the best trans I have driven. I was not comparing it to other transmissions but rather indicating what other transmissions I have owned. To your point about the PDK, I have owned two PDK Porsche’s and yes it is the best I have owned. That does not negate the fact that I like the ZF and that it works very well for me in my car.
Yes, a car guy is going to know a C63 from a CLA. My point is that it’s still a four door salon whose body shape closely resembles a good chunk of the Mercedes lineup. To your argument, a car guy will also be able to tell the difference between the 3 F Types rather quickly.
I could write paragraphs about the purpose of me owning this particular two seater but I will instead just ask you to view this video as it encapsulates why I want only two cup holders in my car and not see myself coming and going every time I drive.
I could write paragraphs about the purpose of me owning this particular two seater but I will instead just ask you to view this video as it encapsulates why I want only two cup holders in my car and not see myself coming and going every time I drive.
We have 3 mercs...and they are great cars...but NOTHING beats the looks of the F-type in the mercedes line, IMO...that's why I bought it. Nothing will beat the mercs build quality, but not always about build quality.
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I could write paragraphs about the purpose of me owning this particular two seater but I will instead just ask you to view this video as it encapsulates why I want only two cup holders in my car and not see myself coming and going every time I drive.
I sold my 2017 AMG C63s beast last September. I'm looking for an AMG GTS but can't find the one I want (1 owner, low miles, color etc). This has left me looking at other cars and learned about the SVR which is about the same price. I just can't pull the trigger on the SVR because I worried about depreciation!!! 1st world problems!!! Need help to pull the trigger lol
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I would put the AMG GTS as being a slightly more exotic car than the SVR. Personally I would prefer the SVR as I cant get into Benz as a concept, but I would be wanting to pay 20% less for the Jag.
My personal view (and I did consider buying an SVR a couple of years back) is that the added cladding detracts from the looks and makes for a not as quite stunning car overall, though I wouldnt kick one out of bed if it farted.
Why don't you buy a slightly older SVR? Most of the depreciation is probably in the first 3 years.
As for the thread, my parent's GLC43 AMG definitely feels like more than 367hp.. it actually felt as fast if not more so than my V6S stock despite weighing more. Probably the 9AT and 4matic doing their job. I really love the interior as well, I would have considered a C43/63 if it came with an MT.
I sold my 2017 AMG C63s beast last September. I'm looking for an AMG GTS but can't find the one I want (1 owner, low miles, color etc). This has left me looking at other cars and learned about the SVR which is about the same price. I just can't pull the trigger on the SVR because I worried about depreciation!!! 1st world problems!!! Need help to pull the trigger lol
Depreciation is irrelevant. I’ve had my F-Type for 6 years and I have to disagree with B.B. King. The thrill is not gone. Depreciation will never have an impact on anything.
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