Anyone using this oil?
My gut says the ILSAC GF-6 spec is likely even better than the JLR spec...newer and GDI oriented, so to me that is what I look for now.
OCI is 5k miles. The factory over 15k OCI is, to me, just super silly if you plan to keep the car long term. Just my opinion and probably wrong, but I recycle my oil and it is my time and money.
I am trying Valvoline Restore and Protect 0w-20. It supposedly after 4 oil changes (minimum, perhaps more) will clean the engine of even the carbon buildup of a GDI engine.
Even it it just stops new stuff foruming, it is a win. I just did a change. Plan to do a filter change to look at how much "stuff" it grabbed in1k 250 miles....if it is full of stuff, probably will do an oil change early. Apparently this stuff really works.....really well.
It would be so nice if this finally made the carbon buildup on GDI engines not an issue. Possible game changer.
OCI is 5k miles. The factory over 15k OCI is, to me, just super silly if you plan to keep the car long term. Just my opinion and probably wrong, but I recycle my oil and it is my time and money.
I am trying Valvoline Restore and Protect 0w-20. It supposedly after 4 oil changes (minimum, perhaps more) will clean the engine of even the carbon buildup of a GDI engine.
Even it it just stops new stuff foruming, it is a win. I just did a change. Plan to do a filter change to look at how much "stuff" it grabbed in
It would be so nice if this finally made the carbon buildup on GDI engines not an issue. Possible game changer.
Trouble is the main problem with GDI is carbon build up on the backs of the intake valves and in the inlet ports, and of course you don't want oil getting into those areas. I have not read or heard of carbon build up on the pistons being a problem in the AJ126 or AJ133. So I don't see how this new brew achieves much if anything over the use of premium fuel and/or fuel additives, at most it keeps the sides of the pistons and particularly the rings a little cleaner.
All that said I have used Valvoline 0W-20 ILSAC GF-6A for the last two or three oil changes anyway!
According to their own blurb, see here for example https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en-a...e-and-protect/, all this "restore and protect" effects is the pistons.
Trouble is the main problem with GDI is carbon build up on the backs of the intake valves and in the inlet ports, and of course you don't want oil getting into those areas. I have not read or heard of carbon build up on the pistons being a problem in the AJ126 or AJ133. So I don't see how this new brew achieves much if anything over the use of premium fuel and/or fuel additives, at most it keeps the sides of the pistons and particularly the rings a little cleaner.
All that said I have used Valvoline 0W-20 ILSAC GF-6A for the last two or three oil changes anyway!
Trouble is the main problem with GDI is carbon build up on the backs of the intake valves and in the inlet ports, and of course you don't want oil getting into those areas. I have not read or heard of carbon build up on the pistons being a problem in the AJ126 or AJ133. So I don't see how this new brew achieves much if anything over the use of premium fuel and/or fuel additives, at most it keeps the sides of the pistons and particularly the rings a little cleaner.
All that said I have used Valvoline 0W-20 ILSAC GF-6A for the last two or three oil changes anyway!
Great point and agree. Short version, it seems like a very good oil.
At least the Valvoline engineer took this question on directly:
It probably cannot hurt things.....if the cleaning fluid gets aerosolized and helps, so be it. I wish JLR had done a Toyota thing and had both injection systems....that being said, the AJ126 and AJ133 are not known for big carbon buildup for whatever reason where the Audi cars were (forget the models but the RS4 was notoriously bad....possibly the 2.0T).
Video is interesting....it is a company person but he seems legit.
I want to repeat this: I have nothing to do with the company or oil, don't sell oil, and do my own changes with a mightyvac in my garage like many. Cars have a finite life and I have finite money- so am trying to optimize things in that context.
Last edited by jcb-memphis; Oct 27, 2024 at 08:31 AM.
Great point and agree. Short version, it seems like a very good oil.
At least the Valvoline engineer took this question on directly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR36QJvg6Ss at around 12:00....he hedges a bit and confirms your point but notes it might help on the valves.
It probably cannot hurt things.....if the cleaning fluid gets aerosolized and helps, so be it. I wish JLR had done a Toyota thing and had both injection systems....that being said, the AJ126 and AJ133 are not known for big carbon buildup for whatever reason where the Audi cars were (forget the models but the RS4 was notoriously bad....possibly the 2.0T).
Video is interesting....it is a company person but he seems legit.
I want to repeat this: I have nothing to do with the company or oil, don't sell oil, and do my own changes with a mightyvac in my garage like many. Cars have a finite life and I have finite money- so am trying to optimize things in that context.
At least the Valvoline engineer took this question on directly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR36QJvg6Ss at around 12:00....he hedges a bit and confirms your point but notes it might help on the valves.
It probably cannot hurt things.....if the cleaning fluid gets aerosolized and helps, so be it. I wish JLR had done a Toyota thing and had both injection systems....that being said, the AJ126 and AJ133 are not known for big carbon buildup for whatever reason where the Audi cars were (forget the models but the RS4 was notoriously bad....possibly the 2.0T).
Video is interesting....it is a company person but he seems legit.
I want to repeat this: I have nothing to do with the company or oil, don't sell oil, and do my own changes with a mightyvac in my garage like many. Cars have a finite life and I have finite money- so am trying to optimize things in that context.
Agree...for a while I was obsessed on NOACK scores and then realized that a difference of say 7% to 10% probably in terms of the PCV meant not much....plan to check my filter often....have 3 or 4 of them in the garage on a shelf.
Last edited by jcb-memphis; Oct 27, 2024 at 08:44 AM.
Yes Ford went to dual injection on the 2018+ 5.0L Coyote engines. But they said it was for increased power and efficiency and no mention of reducing the intake valve build up?
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I just use the Penzoil Ultra Platinum that you can get at Walmart for $29 for five quarts. Between all the various "premium" oils available from the various vendors, I doubt the minor variances between brands makes ANY meaningful difference, at all, in engine longevity.
On a GDI engine, that only works on the INSIDE of the injectors. (Not that this is a bad thing)
This is what I currently have in my car - https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...410kt2#fitment
I use the Redline Complete Fuel System cleaner about every 3-4 tanks. Also run it through the 2013 Golf and 2022 Silverado.
Are you referring to Redline S1?
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-Comp...9ab463d40&th=1
I see S1 in the title, if that's what you are asking. This is the stuff, perhaps not the exact vendor.
I see S1 in the title, if that's what you are asking. This is the stuff, perhaps not the exact vendor.
No injector cleaner/Fuel additive is going to help with the carbon build up on the valves....Because the GDI injector sprays directly into the cylinders and no fuel hits the back of the valves like with Port Injection...Thus the issue. You need to use a fogging cleaner through the intake to get to the backs of the valves. Just FYI.
Another benefit of my Water/Methanol injection, is my valves get a nice hot Alcohol steam/mist bath every time it sprays. You can use a PEA cleaner like this also to clean the valves pretty easily.
https://www.crcindustries.com/gdi-iv...valve-cleaner/
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Another benefit of my Water/Methanol injection, is my valves get a nice hot Alcohol steam/mist bath every time it sprays. You can use a PEA cleaner like this also to clean the valves pretty easily.
https://www.crcindustries.com/gdi-iv...valve-cleaner/
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No injector cleaner/Fuel additive is going to help with the carbon build up on the valves....Because the GDI injector sprays directly into the cylinders and no fuel hits the back of the valves like with Port Injection...Thus the issue. You need to use a fogging cleaner through the intake to get to the backs of the valves. Just FYI.
Another benefit of my Water/Methanol injection, is my valves get a nice hot Alcohol steam/mist bath every time it sprays. You can use a PEA cleaner like this also to clean the valves pretty easily.
https://www.crcindustries.com/gdi-iv...valve-cleaner/
DC
Another benefit of my Water/Methanol injection, is my valves get a nice hot Alcohol steam/mist bath every time it sprays. You can use a PEA cleaner like this also to clean the valves pretty easily.
https://www.crcindustries.com/gdi-iv...valve-cleaner/
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LIQUI MOLY makes good stuff, but I'd stay with something that meets the STJLR.03.5006 standard to avoid any issues (with the car or JLR). I've been able to find the Castrol outside of the dealer in the past, but supply is hit/miss. Fcpeuro has compliant oil and their free replacement program is nice.











