It's not political to say politics can and should have measured nuance and be able to handle the complexity of modern issues and problems. That's what I hate about the WWE method of modern politics is that it deliberate shoves the "there's always a middle, we can work come to an agreement" for theatrics and reality show twitter.

We can all have complex, varied opinions, and we can all work together to find a common middle ground. The people who don't believe that are just frothing at the mouth to be angry. I like how measured and polite the thread is. I didn't mean to get into "grey" areas, but this one is going well. =)

 

It’s a bit depressing actually to see how far into ones personal lives California continues to reach for the plebs such as me. This is yet another straw for the pile to leave California the state I have called home for 30yrs. The quality of life continues to drop, costs continue to rise and my individual rights continue to be chipped away for the “greater good”…If this is about “global warming” how about we go after the real polluters such as China before taking more rights from US citizens?

Glad we don’t have any kids…

 

Ah yes, not sure CA isn't the only progressive state in this regard here in the US...

Here in VA I occasionally drive through an emissions sensor set up at the side of the road, typically at the on-ramp onto I-66 west from Rt 7 east...
Oh yea, it's there to check up on you as you accelerate up the hill from 35mph to the 55mph, I guess my '07 XK is still clean 'cause I have yet to get a communications otherwise TBH mot sure that this vintage vehicle is as vulnerable as the '14 Escape my #1 has. To be fair, the Escape doesn't have to go to the Emissions Station every two years anymore...so we have that going for us.

I do F with them as I accelerate before and then back off the throttle a bit before crossing in front of the sensor.

 

They got pay for the recall somehow...and a bunch of other stuff that won't fund itself.

Remember that it is ALSO one of the States that believes electric cars are the answer, never mind the lack of range AND the incredible load which they place on an already strained grid that cannot keep up with current demand.

 

Agreed

 

The Governor has been bragging about a huge state surplus built on the backs of all the businesses that went under last year. That should take care of a big chunk of the cost.

 

Or when politicians and actors say those things "You people are polluting the environment and need to stop driving" while they are being driven in large Suburbans followed by police motorcade on their way to their private jets. What a joke

 

While I see this as a government overreach and strongly disapprove of this, I can't help but notice too many cars tuned for overly loud 'lift-off backfire' sound effects. As such, I expect the crackdown on all tuning would be popular with the public that only hears the obnoxious ones.

 

My guess is you'd need to take it to a dealer to get it installed and flashed. These ECUs are used in a variety of Jag models, so I don't think they come preloaded w a stock tune for your car.

 

You don't have to smog a car for the first 8 years of its life in CA

By the time my tuned F-type needs a smog it'll be somebody else's problem and I'll be in something newer that'll probably also be tuned and also won't need to be smogged for 8 years.

Not too worried about this personally.

 

That is exactly what pollies are looking at in some states of Australia.

 

Fishbits for Governor! (Bet that's never been said before.) Governor Fishbits has a nice ring to it.

This has to be the nicest somewhat political thread on the whole internet.

 

I really don't know how I'm going to combat this because my engine light is always on. I have the tune, but I used to have a failed cat. So I went ahead and installed velocity AP cats instead. Because of that, my engine light stays on. I haven't had to do a smog test yet, so the day I do, I'm sure it's going to fail even if I remove the engine light with a code reader.

 

it absolutely will fail in California without OEM cats regardless of the check engine light

 

Agreed!
This rule will force many independent shops out of business, leaving marketshare for the deep pockets. Pay the chip for the OE label, then pass that cost onto the enthusiast. This has been the theme in most every facet of Major Business, since the RE crash. JMHO.

 

Yep. More emphasis on the visual inspection for OE equipment, than if it pollutes.

 

Oh and the weather lol

 

Read up on "dieselgate" and you'll get a better idea. There have long been assertions that the ECUs can tell when they're running on the test cycle and run cleanly but with lower power. When not detecting that, they give the power and drivability people expect but pollute above legal limits.

 

While this is not strictly-speaking true, it is certainly true that failure is the likely outcome.

 

When 8 years are up in 2024 or so.. hopefully there will be some way around this. Perhaps by flashing the original tune, or something of the sort.