Does DSC limit the car's acceleration?
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Does DSC limit the car's acceleration?
If you're going from a standstill to 60, does anybody know if DSC on will make the car slower? Has anybody experienced better performance when putting the car into TracDSC?
The reason I ask is because I've seen a few posts saying the car has a ton of nannies that like to cut power, however I'm worried about the safety implications of taking it off full DSC. Any ideas?
Edit: I have the base RWD V6 coupe w/ a VAP ECU tune (no pulley).
The reason I ask is because I've seen a few posts saying the car has a ton of nannies that like to cut power, however I'm worried about the safety implications of taking it off full DSC. Any ideas?
Edit: I have the base RWD V6 coupe w/ a VAP ECU tune (no pulley).
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At the drag strip, having DSC on made no difference in my 60' time. It would dead hook either way, but things will be different in a RWD car on an un-prepped surface.
The quickest acceleration is achieved with 10-12% tire slip anyway, so if you're AWD, it would be quickest with it off.
The quickest acceleration is achieved with 10-12% tire slip anyway, so if you're AWD, it would be quickest with it off.
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At the drag strip, having DSC on made no difference in my 60' time. It would dead hook either way, but things will be different in a RWD car on an un-prepped surface.
The quickest acceleration is achieved with 10-12% tire slip anyway, so if you're AWD, it would be quickest with it off.
The quickest acceleration is achieved with 10-12% tire slip anyway, so if you're AWD, it would be quickest with it off.
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I *feel* like it's slower but have never tested it. It may just be that the sound of the engine/exhaust spooling up sooner/louder tricks me. With the dsc on full, I can bury the pedal and get pretty minimal slippage. The more you turn off the dsc, the more spin you get. If the dsc is really optimized for speed it should be faster tho..
DSC will slow you down. You can modulate throttle application more quickly than the computer does. Specifically, the computer takes too long to reapply power after it pulls power to address slippage.
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I have a Base also, and don't notice much difference in the Traction Control between DSC and TracDSC - just a little bit more slippage in TracDSC. I mistakenly set DSC completely off once, hammered it away from a stop sign, and just went up in smoke. It felt like I got some axle hop.
The biggest difference between TracDSC and DSC to me is in the Yaw Nannies. I can get more sideways in TracDSC. That's important to me. Coming out of my subdivision is a 2 lane road with thick traffic going about 70. I NEED to be able to make a hard left turn and get up to speed.
The biggest difference between TracDSC and DSC to me is in the Yaw Nannies. I can get more sideways in TracDSC. That's important to me. Coming out of my subdivision is a 2 lane road with thick traffic going about 70. I NEED to be able to make a hard left turn and get up to speed.
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In dry weather, I use TracDSC. It will allow some slip and avoid cutting throttle.
Normal DSC just bogs everything down.
Turning traction control entirely off makes doing a 180 entirely too easy.
Normal DSC just bogs everything down.
Turning traction control entirely off makes doing a 180 entirely too easy.
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Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
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Maybe. DSC will cut your throttle if you loose traction. It also prevents you from skidding.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
I've never felt like the car inhibited much slippage in tracdsc *if* the car was pointed mostly straight. Keeps em' spinning through 3rd. I don't need them slipping if I'm moving faster than that. ��
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Maybe. DSC will cut your throttle if you loose traction. It also prevents you from skidding.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
Yeah fair enough, I don't have the intention of turning DSC off completely. I want to put it into TracDSC which is still rather safe... Right?
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Maybe. DSC will cut your throttle if you loose traction. It also prevents you from skidding.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
Here is what would happen to your car if you turn everything off and just stomp on the accelerator from stand-still.
First, your rear wheels would lose traction and start spinning
Second, your rear end would skid, typically pointing your nose left but surface slope can change skid direction
Third, you panic and lift off throttle
Forth, your wheels catch traction after you lift and launch your car toward where the nose points.
Fifth, you over-correct and make skid worse by losing traction up front.
Sixth, you end up hitting something after spinning out.
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Youtube is filled with idiots in Ferraris, Lambos, etc. hitting the gas pedal so hard from a stop at a redlight, while initiating a left turn, that they end up hitting the cars on the other side of the road...
Me I drive with DSC on at all times and I respect the 550hp in front of me
Me I drive with DSC on at all times and I respect the 550hp in front of me
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sigh! All you need to do is to learn how to drive......I routinely drive my RWD V8S with the traction control completely off and I've not spun out, crashed or otherwise perished. The nannies simply protect you from your own lack of skill.
I grew up driving 500hp rwd cars with 14" bias ply tires and the only electronic aids we had were the headlights and windshield wipers! You tend to learn some respect for the vehicle and it's capabilities.
No, I'm not going to let my son or wife drive my F type with the traction control off but some of you make it sound like it's a death sentence.....on a V6!
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I grew up driving 500hp rwd cars with 14" bias ply tires and the only electronic aids we had were the headlights and windshield wipers! You tend to learn some respect for the vehicle and it's capabilities.
No, I'm not going to let my son or wife drive my F type with the traction control off but some of you make it sound like it's a death sentence.....on a V6!
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OP I have the same car as you and I drive it with all nannies off, Dynamic mode, Sport + Paddles 100% of the time. It all comes down to personal preference and driver skill. I personally don't want any computer stepping in and trying to control or change something that I am trying to do. I am very comfortable "throwing" this car around to do what I want at this point.
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I took me quite a long time to find right technique how to start really fast without almost any wheel spin. I have real wheel drive and 295/30/20 tyres.