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Agreed. I'd rather have a stellar looking forged wheel and 24 extra pounds than a poor looking carbon fiber set. The money I save could probably be put towards lightweight seats also.
Agreed. I'd rather have a stellar looking forged wheel and 24 extra pounds than a poor looking carbon fiber set. The money I save could probably be put towards lightweight seats also.
I'm late to this but I actually like the ESE's(option 2) the best although the price is hard to swallow. At $5000 i'd buy them in a heart beat. Has anybody on here bought some lightweight wheels yet for there F Type?
I'm late to this but I actually like the ESE's(option 2) the best although the price is hard to swallow. At $5000 i'd buy them in a heart beat. Has anybody on here bought some lightweight wheels yet for there F Type?
The actual prototypes look better than the original artist renditions. I would consider them if we could get them down to $6,000 just for the weight savings.
Too bad this never went anywhere. Number four is my pick. Two is just too, blah. I understand function over form but my Forgelines on my Camaro look better than option 2 and are not that heavy.
For the last 20 years I have been talking about unsprung weight to mostly deaf ears. I have done so, so, many wheels changes trying to see how much you could actually feel (which of course varies greatly for each car I would experiment with). For instance going with lightweight 19" wheels and no runflat tires on a 650i coupe (from the 20" msport wheels and runflats) was like night and day. On a Porsche 997 I could feel a 8lbs per corner change but not a 4.5lb. In my experience the weight of the car, the type of suspension and most of all the steering rack setup (electronic assists are harder to feel a difference in my experience), will make a big difference in what you feel. I am going to put Nitto Motivo's on the carbon looking I guess they call them, and in the spring I will buy a set of lighter 20" wheels which should be enough to get me around 10lbs per corner (if my guess that the stock wheels are around 32-34lbs is correct), which should be enough (along with changing tires) to change the feel of the car. This car has many great things about it, I would not put steering feel or response as one of them. Of course it depends on what you are used to
For the last 20 years I have been talking about unsprung weight to mostly deaf ears.
In my case, you are preaching to the choir. Saving unsprung weight has substantial impact on handling. For the weight saving alone I would have considered the CC brakes if they had been offered with the MT. Weighing in at 14-15 lbs each, the ESE wheels are almost 80 lbs lighter in total than the 20" Gyrodynes. If the ESEs were just a bit less expensive and a bit less ugly, they would be on my car by now.
Yes, it seems this has become more known to people in the last 5 to 7 years. I can remember testing 7 different wheel and tire setups on the 04 Gallardo when I turned it into RWD. I do not want to say I am some sort of expert on this but as I said there are many factors involved in determining just how much of an effect weight will be and what differences are truly noticeable. I have probably done this with well over 200 cars and in some cases there was not as big a difference as I thought there would be. RWD, AWD, FWD, I have played with every form (AWD seem to have the least feeling with smaller amounts of weight loss), I went with OZ wheels (less than 15lbs) on my modified Abarth damn what a difference. I even tried this with Range Rovers, MB SUV's and a Jeep, must say was not a huge success. I am looking at Stance and Savini, the lightest wheels are usually not the best looking unfortunately if you like a lot of spokes well that always adds weight. As I said I ordered the All seasons to put on the blade wheels (I do not need another car that sits all winter) so I can drive it in the colder temps (bought new wheels and nokian tires for the Range Rover pulling those 22's off that thing), and I will see what I can find but I think I will be happy if I can get under 25lbs. I think that will give me enough reduction to change this cars handling characteristics. In my experience those of you with RWD cars will feel the weight reduction even more than those of you with AWD. By the way I love the throttle controller, gives the car a real boost.
^ You definitely seem to have a great amount of knowledge and experience around this. What's your take on something like this?
I spoke with John @ CCW who told me a set of his TS12 18" wheels would actually fit the car (front / rear). There's already a set of 18s on a Huracan out there too.
Now we're talking about a wheel that weights only 18lbs as an 18x11 and "only" costs $800/wheel.
^ You definitely seem to have a great amount of knowledge and experience around this. What's your take on something like this?
I spoke with John @ CCW who told me a set of his TS12 18" wheels would actually fit the car (front / rear). There's already a set of 18s on a Huracan out there too.
Now we're talking about a wheel that weights only 18lbs as an 18x11 and "only" costs $800/wheel.
I am assuming based on your 1/4 miles #'s you have a R. I am not aware of any (not that that means there are not any) 18's that will fit these cars. I think first thing is what are you after, if it is just weight savings less rolling mass than sure. I assume you plan is to lower the car once you change the wheels. I have found I notice very little difference going from 20" to 19" but I do notice the change if you go down to 18". This car has a side profile (at least in my opinion) that looks better with larger wheels, so I would definitely lower it if I went to 18" wheels.
Do not take this the wrong way, but I do no find the handling of these cars to be lets say sports car like (at least compared to what I'm used to), it is a bit un cat like for me, but I like 85% of what it does and for me that is plenty at this point in my life.
I have no doubt if those wheels fit at that weight you will definitely notice the difference. Mind if I ask who make these wheels, I'm guessing it must be someone that manufacturers their own wheels rather than off shoring.
Thanks for the feedback. Correct, well, I have a 2014 V8S.
Yup, planning on lowering the car as well. Agree on that a larger wheel would be ideal, just wondering if the idea of an 18lb, 18" wheel vs. a 25lb Rohana RF2 20" wheel is worth it.
John runs CCW (complete custom wheels), yeah, they're all made to spec here in the states.
Okay so here is my take, keep in mind I do not know you or this car very well yet (I only have 152miles on it I tend to wait at least 200 miles for the tires a brakes to break in a bit before I really push it), and my car (2017 R) is AWD yours is RWD so you will feel weight reduction more than I do. One thing if I remember rotors are close to 15" so visually it might look a bit off with 18" wheels. I would love to see a photo with those 18"s on the car. You will feel 28lbs will it be worth it well that depends on your final goal. Like I said for me it is just easier to put ALL Seasons on the blade stock wheels (you live fairly close to me so Z rated summer tires are not much fun in the winters here), and then get a set of lighter (am fine with less than 25lbs) with better summer tires.
My end goals aren't so much road course...more along the lines of 1/4 and 1/2 mile racing. Anything beyond that is just gravy.
Going with a TS12 18" setup will save about 60lbs in total over the OEM 20s. Here are a few pics of 18s on a Huracan and a Porsche. Huracan front brakes are also 15" if memory serves.
This car doesn't see much action once the temps are routinely under 40 degrees.
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