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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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So JLR just stopped building ICE vehicles?
Then, why can I order a 2025 F-Pace SVR?
A seriously fast SUV!!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 02:55 PM
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They extended the production run of the F-PACE specifically. Its their money maker. This was announced mid-July.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 08:47 PM
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They continued with the F-Pace only as it was the only vehicle they were making at a profit (according to JLR). Since the tooling is all paid for and electrics won't be out until 2025 at the earliest, they need some kind of revenue stream.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 09:25 PM
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lol, priorities!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 12:55 AM
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Also, it shares a platform with the LR Velar.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 08:22 AM
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I might consider this option.
Has anyone driven an F-Pace SVR?
Can anyone compare handling to an F-Type, either 6 or 8 cylinder)?
I am guessing more roll but the on-line reviews look pretty good.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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There’s a 2020 with 59.000 miles close by for $47k I plan to go drive it today. Obviously it’s not going to handle like the Type but I desire the way upgraded trim and the effortless power of the SC V8.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 09:06 AM
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Thanks Rob. I look forward to hearing about it. Starting to think about swapping out the Jeep and the F-Type for one of those.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 12:33 PM
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So I drove it. Very un impressed. Understand this was a 2020 because I thought I wanted all the bangs and crackles that they got rid of in 2021.
There’s no way I’d trade in my F Type R for it. In fact there’s no way I trade my F Pace S for it. The interior isn’t that much nicer for $20K more.
It needs an exhaust button badly. I like that in the Type R you can poodle around nice and quiet and then hit the button for drama. The Pace SVR is drama all the time because you’re pushing around a larger beast.

Maybe the newer ones with the updated interior. Maybe the newer ones with the gentleman mode exhaust. Maybe a Cayenne Turbo.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 07:38 AM
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So, I drove a 2024 F-Pace 6 cylinder last weekend.
I also was not very impressed.
The engine seemed a bit coarse (even compared to my 2017 Grand Cherokee).
Most of the cars available came with white leather interiors - not great for a day-to-day SUV.
Overall, a bit underwhelmed. Add to that the increasing lack of dealer service locations.
Ended up buying a loaded Grand Cherokee Overland instead.
More car for quite a bit less moolah!!
Still have the F-Type which the Jag salesman said was going to appreciate!!
Considering it has lost 50% of its value in 3 years, it has a long way to go up!!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CJSJAG
So, I drove a 2024 F-Pace 6 cylinder last weekend.
I also was not very impressed.
The engine seemed a bit coarse (even compared to my 2017 Grand Cherokee).
Most of the cars available came with white leather interiors - not great for a day-to-day SUV.
Overall, a bit underwhelmed. Add to that the increasing lack of dealer service locations.
Ended up buying a loaded Grand Cherokee Overland instead.
More car for quite a bit less moolah!!
Still have the F-Type which the Jag salesman said was going to appreciate!!
Considering it has lost 50% of its value in 3 years, it has a long way to go up!!
The appreciation will happen, but it will probably take a while. I think people will want to hold these cars though because of the EV future.

There’s so much more to life than how much one’s car will appreciate. Not saying this is you, but so many people care about this issue to the point where it can detract from the enjoyment of their vehicle. That is sad in my view, and it misses the entire point of bringing these machines into our lives.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 08:06 AM
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Except in unusual circumstances, I think all vehicles are depreciating assets.
Don't expect to live long enough to make a profit!!!
But it sure felt good driving the Jag during covid!!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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As already mentioned F-Pace is continuing as it is profitable. However, I have just read that JLR has also done some divination about EVs in general, and will be devoting resources to development of hybrids in addition to their all-electric uberluxe town cars. Guess they actually want to remain a going concern, and will have additional models in the pipeline.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 09:25 AM
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If they follow the herd they will offer hybrids capable of 35 miles on battery alone before switching to ICE, or just add a battery to prop up an underperforming 4 cylinder ICE without any independent battery action.
All about looking green and tax rebates!!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 09:37 AM
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I hope they re-ignite the program to build a sports car with an M engine.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
There’s so much more to life than how much one’s car will appreciate. Not saying this is you, but so many people care about this issue to the point where it can detract from the enjoyment of their vehicle. That is sad in my view, and it misses the entire point of bringing these machines into our lives.
Buying a sports car with appreciation in mind is like marrying for money...doesn't work out very well.

Sports cars are to enjoy and generally make for a poor financial investment. Much of what has happened over the past 20 years has just been asset inflation caused by the FED printing trillions of dollars. "Pump and dump" has been one of the all-time great scams which has infected just about every asset class [including sports cars]. Look at what it has done to housing. It's going to be a sad day when the dump finally happens in the housing market [baby boomers such as myself selling off big, expensive homes to exactly who?].
 
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Originally Posted by CJSJAG
Except in unusual circumstances, I think all vehicles are depreciating assets.
Strictly speaking, an asset is something that makes you money while you own it, not just when you sell it. So if your car is a taxi, it's an asset; if you rent out a house, that's an asset.

You're right about the depreciating bit, though! :-)
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scm
Strictly speaking, an asset is something that makes you money while you own it, not just when you sell it. So if your car is a taxi, it's an asset; if you rent out a house, that's an asset.

You're right about the depreciating bit, though! :-)
Definitely some exceptions but very few people have the funds for the initial price of entry required on the types of cars that increase in value like stocks. Those cars separate the men from the boys. As the saying goes, it takes money to make money. That is most definitely true in cars.

Any money someone MIGHT make on more averageish cars would probably be a rounding error after inflation is taken into account etc...
 
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