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Some of this is parts unavailability. I've seen at least 2 F-Types totaled out by the insurers with relatively minor damage. If the only payouts are zero and "total", then I'm guessing the rates are going to go way up.
Isn't totalling common with luxury cars in general? I thought the current issue with parts was because jaguar was switching their suppliers in their supply change? Is this an issue that's going to get worse? I just bought an f-type.
Contacted my Home N auto agent, West Bend, to inquire as to what value they would use to calculate repair payment for my 2017 F 6 cyl. premium, Manual trans. I also revisited the Hagerty quote, and the form (online) asks you what value you want to use... 'what you paid for it, sticker, etc.' I made some changes in the Hagerty coverages so my revised annual is about $1298. The comparable WestBend is $1093. Will be interesting to find out what West Bend says the car is worth. After reading that some Fs have been 'totalled' , I am not interested in getting shorted for this car.
Please let me know if you hear anything. Allstate quoted me $700 per month. No accidents in my entire 11 year driving history.
That's insane!
I just renewed our policy and we pay [Connect Insurance through Costco] less than $1000. per year for my wife's base Cayenne and my F type. We have basic coverage with high deductibles and are retired [and don't drive a great deal anymore], but it might be worth checking out if you have access to Costco.
Please let me know if you hear anything. Allstate quoted me $700 per month. No accidents in my entire 11 year driving history.
700 a month. That is lunacy, but with the relatively short time you've been driving it doesn't surprise me. That's them telling you they don't want to insure you basically.
I just renewed our policy and we pay [Connect Insurance through Costco] less than $1000. per year for my wife's base Cayenne and my F type. We have basic coverage with high deductibles and are retired [and don't drive a great deal anymore], but it might be worth checking out if you have access to Costco.
Please tell me it's a 1000 bucks a year each car and not 1000 bucks a year for both?!?!?
$1400/yr for the Jag, the 2013 C63 and the 2019 Tacoma Limited from Erie with lifetime accident forgiveness (meaning they won't raise my rate for an accident - ever).
$1002/yr for the Jag and a 2017 Volvo S90. I am also with Erie and have been for decades. I also have Rate Lock on my policy which means my rates will never increase until I add or delete a car from the policy.
I am thinking of replacing the S90 in the fall which will no doubt lead to a huge rate increase.
Some of this is parts unavailability. I've seen at least 2 F-Types totaled out by the insurers with relatively minor damage. If the only payouts are zero and "total", then I'm guessing the rates are going to go way up.
This is exactly what my insurance agent told me when I inquired why the insurance on my F-type went up to $1800/year.
Synthesis, I am also in Southern California and a retiree. I am not a COSTCO member, it doesn't make sense as the closest location is 50 miles away. But I was all ready to sign up just to get their lower insurance rates on my home plus two vehicles. But I just went to COSTCO's website and saw this:
So for any other residents of CA or Florida, bend over. I'm in a high fire danger zone and had to buy a California Fair Plan Policy JUST for the fire insurance part of my homeowner's insurance, and my homeowner's insurance tripled this year. I'm full expecting big increases on my auto policies as well. And it appears that there is no longer any such thing as "shopping around for a better deal".
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There are so many variables with auto insurance policies (driver, driver history, number of drivers, coverage, limits, deductibles, location, vehicle value, bundled discounts, etc.) that it's almost impossible to compare rates apples to apples in a thread like this.
Synthesis, I am also in Southern California and a retiree. I am not a COSTCO member, it doesn't make sense as the closest location is 50 miles away. But I was all ready to sign up just to get their lower insurance rates on my home plus two vehicles. But I just went to COSTCO's website and saw this:
So for any other residents of CA or Florida, bend over. I'm in a high fire danger zone and had to buy a California Fair Plan Policy JUST for the fire insurance part of my homeowner's insurance, and my homeowner's insurance tripled this year. I'm full expecting big increases on my auto policies as well. And it appears that there is no longer any such thing as "shopping around for a better deal".
That sucks, but it is certainly not surprising. My wife and I moved in-town about four years ago as our home in the canyon just above Sierra Madre [next to Pasadena] was becoming more and more difficult to insure. Interestingly, as I was pulling out of the driveway with the last of our stuff on moving day, ashes began to fall as we escaped [and so did the house] just as the fire [forget the name] that ravaged the area got within about a half mile. We are glad to be in-town [and further east] not having to worry about floods, fires, bears, and what-not [although I kind of like the bears but my wife was terrified of them].
I've always looked at any type of insurance as "catastrophic" and have attempted to self insure as much as possible. Insurance companies [essentially being banks] are not interested in customers who submit claims, only those who understand how the casino works. If you figure it out and self insure as much as possible, two things result...#1 The insurance companies will make the most profit, #2 You will still have protection if something really horrible happens [which is what what insurance should be all about anyway].
The bottom-line is that you have to save what you can and be prepared to pay for the little stuff...otherwise, the insurance company will take note of the fact that you do not "get it" and rid themselves of you. Just like health insurance companies only want to insure healthy people, automobile insurance companies only want to insure people who don't get into accidents [or don't submit claims for the piddly stuff].
It's hard to tell exactly which institution is circling to drain faster at this point, but insurance is reason 4,863 to get the hell out of California as fast as possible!
Continuing to do research with my Home/Auto policy as well as considering Hagerty. From what my agent told me... if damaged, my 2017 F would have a 'book' value determined. Then, the repairs would be figured out. Agent said that a car is generally 'totalled' if repairs exceed 70-75% of 'book' value. I did a quick KBB valuation and the car is currently about $28,000 (2017 base/premium/manual trans) , so if there was $21,000 damage, it would be totalled. Also looked up the Jaguar approved aluminum network for my zipcode.
I will be reconciling the coverages between current Home/Auto at 'book' value and what Hagerty will do for a $48,000 'agreed upon' value.
At this point, it's not so much what the premiums cost, as it is the spectre of having the F considered 'totalled' for repair costs. Would like to hear from F owners who have gone through this process, what was damaged, where did you take it and if you feel comfortable, how much did it cost to get it repaired........
700 a month. That is lunacy, but with the relatively short time you've been driving it doesn't surprise me. That's them telling you they don't want to insure you basically.
11 years is short now? That's like 20% of a person's driving lifetime and people get worse at driving during the final 20% haha
@Craaaazzy I had a DB9, Evora and got my 21 yro daughter a 12 chevy as a graduation present, my insurance went from 1270 for 6 months to over 2800, because I had to add her 2 my cars she would NEVER drive. Insurance companies will do what ever it takes to get the most money from you, just like the government does.
Current economic conditions in this country are largely responsible for escalating insurance costs for everything, cars, boats, houses, commercial properties. Blame it on the Fed and the current administration, at least in part, because of the inflationary policies they have both fueled.
@Craaaazzy I had a DB9, Evora and got my 21 yro daughter a 12 chevy as a graduation present, my insurance went from 1270 for 6 months to over 2800, because I had to add her 2 my cars she would NEVER drive. Insurance companies will do what ever it takes to get the most money from you, just like the government does.
that’s what I’ve heard from friends as well. Just moved the Jag to Grundy’s in preparation for when she is added to our policy (a little more than a year from now).
Current economic conditions in this country are largely responsible for escalating insurance costs for everything, cars, boats, houses, commercial properties. Blame it on the Fed and the current administration, at least in part, because of the inflationary policies they have both fueled.
Insurance companies don't like paying out. How many natural disasters have we seen in the US in just the last 2-3 years? West coast fires, mudslides, tornadoes, same with east/south coast areas, visual scenes of vehicles floating down swollen water ways, tossed around like toys, or just burned out shells. Most states require auto insurance, so even with minimum coverage, a 'totalled' car is going to bring about a payout... which means less $$$ in ins. co pockets. They are NOT about to absorb those losses and will pass them on to the rest of us, hence the rate increases. It's also a known fact that your personal credit rating plays into the rates you pay, as well as how many claims you have made. We self insure for small things, paying out of pocket for some car/home repairs rather than file a claim. Always a good idea to routinely go over your insurances to see if perhaps a change in company would make a difference, but making sure the coverages are comparable.