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AJB2 04-13-2019 01:50 AM

Introducing Me
 
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Morning All

I’ve been lurking here for a few weeks now & decided it was time to introduce myself. I’ve just bought a 2014 F-Type manual here in the UK...Hopefully I’ve managed to attach some photos...

sov211 04-13-2019 10:22 AM

Great photos, and a beautiful F-Type (but, without diminishing the lustre of this one, all F-Types are beautiful). Welcome! Now, practice controlling your inner hooligan which this car will release. It has partially worked for me (the attempt to control it, I mean).

KVO 04-13-2019 11:32 AM

Welcome, welcome :)

Jst2gtby 04-13-2019 01:28 PM

Welcome! 🤗
Beautiful car and great job on the pictures!

Dave

Mbourne 04-13-2019 03:47 PM

Congratulations on your acquisition and what will prove to be the new love of your life! Enjoy.

Unhingd 04-13-2019 04:33 PM

Welcome! How is it you have a 2014 with a manual transmission?

SinF 04-13-2019 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2054536)

I’ve been lurking here for a few weeks now & decided it was time to introduce myself. I’ve just bought a 2014 F-Type manual here in the UK...Hopefully I’ve managed to attach some photos...

Gorgeous car, but it isn't 2014. It is 2016 or 2017.

scm 04-13-2019 04:41 PM

Sure looks like a 2014 to me.

Unhingd 04-13-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by scm (Post 2054795)
Sure looks like a 2014 to me.

Even under the European MY designations, the MT was not available until MY15, and memory card sockets in the center console even much later.

SinF 04-13-2019 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by scm (Post 2054795)
Sure looks like a 2014 to me.

Look at the dash, it has round ( ./ )

sov211 04-13-2019 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by scm (Post 2054795)
Sure looks like a 2014 to me.

It absolutely is nòt a 2014 nor 2015, and possibly not even a 2016...the clue is the display between the two main gauges. The earlier cars had the readings displayed vertically in straight lines, not as parenthetical curves. perhaps the original poster could comment...was it just a keyboard slip - or is there a reason why he thinks the car is a 2014 model? (Curious, not accusing...)

OzXFR 04-13-2019 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by sov211 (Post 2054843)
It absolutely is nòt a 2014 nor 2015, and possibly not even a 2016...the clue is the display between the two main gauges. The earlier cars had the readings displayed vertically in straight lines, not as parenthetical curves. perhaps the original poster could comment...was it just a keyboard slip - or is there a reason why he thinks the car is a 2014 model? (Curious, not accusing...)

Yep, definitely not a 2014 or 2015, it's at least a 2016.

Tel 04-14-2019 10:24 AM

Elementary my dear Watson; Interesting, as I was having the same thoughts...according to Jag UK Manuals were added to their website latter part of 2014:

2016 JAGUAR F-TYPE: INTRODUCING ALL-WHEEL DRIVE AND MANUAL TRANSMISSION

19 NOVEMBER 2014
The F-TYPE, Jaguar’s all-aluminium sports car, will in 2015 set new standards for dynamics and driver involvement.

The gauges tell me it's a 2015 model (16MY in the UK), license plate tally's up, with an early (Jan, Feb or March '15).
Interestingly, the license plate doesn't reveal the VIN from internet sources which is odd....still, my deductions are that it's definitely a 2015 (16MY) car.
Anyhow, welcome to the fold AJB2! ;-)

sov211 04-14-2019 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Tel (Post 2055074)
Elementary my dear Watson; Interesting, as I was having the same thoughts...according to Jag UK Manuals were added to their website latter part of 2014:

2016 JAGUAR F-TYPE: INTRODUCING ALL-WHEEL DRIVE AND MANUAL TRANSMISSION

19 NOVEMBER 2014
The F-TYPE, Jaguar’s all-aluminium sports car, will in 2015 set new standards for dynamics and driver involvement.

The gauges tell me it's a 2015 model (16MY in the UK), license plate tally's up, with an early (Jan, Feb or March '15).
Interestingly, the license plate doesn't reveal the VIN from internet sources which is odd....still, my deductions are that it's definitely a 2015 (16MY) car.
Anyhow, welcome to the fold AJB2! ;-)

Well, this sort of statement ("a 2015 model [2016MY in the UK]") is what utterly confuses people in North America (and probably elsewhere) because the car is clearly a 2016 model year car - that was the year for which that form of instrument display was introduced: 2016. The car well have been built in the 2015 CALENDAR year, but it is not a "2015 model" - it is a 2016 model!... and then there is the UK system of identifying cars as "M reg", "P reg" (yes, I know that these are fictictious....I just chose a letter) because this makes no sense at all to so many of us.
My car, built in late 2014 as a 2015 Canadian-market model, is therefore (logically) registered as a 2015 model, put into service and first registered (as a 2015 model) in December 2014.
Really, between the Brexit fiasco and the automobile model year registration system...crazy-making, eccentric and wonderfully British.

AJB2 04-14-2019 01:12 PM

Hey Guys...Thanks for all the comments. It was actually registered on 18th September 2014 & according to the Topix report, is a 2016 M/Y. It must’ve been one of the very first manuals built, it was actually originally registered with the DVLA as a 340bhp auto??? I would love to find out what it was used for when first built...BTW. I bought it from an approved Jaguar dealership with a 2 year approved Jaguar warranty so there’s nothing “dodgy about it...Just unusual. Done a little over 20,000 miles & the clutch slipped on Friday causing it to still smell in the cabin today!!!

Unhingd 04-14-2019 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055131)
Hey Guys...Thanks for all the comments. It was actually registered on 18th September 2014 & according to the Topix report, is a 2016 M/Y. It must’ve been one of the very first manuals built, it was actually originally registered with the DVLA as a 340bhp auto??? I would love to find out what it was used for when first built...BTW. I bought it from an approved Jaguar dealership with a 2 year approved Jaguar warranty so there’s nothing “dodgy about it...Just unusual. Done a little over 20,000 miles & the clutch slipped on Friday causing it to still smell in the cabin today!!!

Please provide us with the first 2 digits of the last 5 digits of the VIN. There may be a Story here on the production history of MT F-Types.

Tel 04-14-2019 02:45 PM

Sounds like a rather interesting car...

@AJB2 Maybe Jaguars' OSH may be able to shed more light on where it's been and from. https://osh.jaguar.com/

Hoping not to see the word Copart in there! ;-)

scm 04-14-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by sov211 (Post 2054843)
It absolutely is nòt a 2014 nor 2015, and possibly not even a 2016...the clue is the display between the two main gauges. The earlier cars had the readings displayed vertically in straight lines, not as parenthetical curves. perhaps the original poster could comment...was it just a keyboard slip - or is there a reason why he thinks the car is a 2014 model? (Curious, not accusing...)

I based my assessment on the reg: it looks like it has "64" which shows it was registered between September 2014 and March 2015. I guessed you couldn't register a car before it was built, although you can put a personal plate on that shows as an older registration year. MY is a whole different kettle of fish, of course.

IronMike 04-14-2019 04:54 PM

To my knowledge, at least as the information was release in the US market, they stopped production of the 2015 model year in December 2014, and did not start production on the 2016 model year until February 2015.
sov211 is absolutely correct, the instrument display is that from a 2016 or later model year, so something seems out of place if this vehicle with a 2016 model year instrument cluster has been represented to be registered months before production started on that model year. Either the instrument display was replaced (not sure that's technically compatible), or the model year has not been correctly represented.

scm 04-14-2019 05:13 PM

Or it was a pre-production car that was updated to a later spec?

AJB2 04-14-2019 05:35 PM

Hi unhinged. Numbers are 18...let’s see what you find...

Cheers.

andrew.

AJB2 04-14-2019 05:39 PM

Tel...It does say Copart (Special Vehicle Operations). What does this mean then?

AJB2 04-14-2019 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tel (Post 2055165)
Sounds like a rather interesting car...

@AJB2 Maybe Jaguars' OSH may be able to shed more light on where it's been and from. https://osh.jaguar.com/

Hoping not to see the word Copart in there! ;-)

It does have Copart (Special Vehicle Operations)

AJB2 04-14-2019 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tel (Post 2055165)
Sounds like a rather interesting car...

@AJB2 Maybe Jaguars' OSH may be able to shed more light on where it's been and from. https://osh.jaguar.com/

Hoping not to see the word Copart in there! ;-)

This is how it is written

Copart (Special Vehicle Operations)Acrey Fields, Woburn RoadBedfordshireBedfordshireMK43 9EJUnited Kingdom01234 762213B561630/11/20166699 miles

Service Completed16000 miles / 12 months serviceOther Related ItemsRenewal of Oil and Oil FilterRenewal of Brake FluidRenewal of Pollen FilterRenewal of Engine Air FilterRenewal of Alarm Handset BatteriesAir Conditioning Service

AJB2 04-14-2019 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055260)
This is how it is written

Copart (Special Vehicle Operations)Acrey Fields, Woburn RoadBedfordshireBedfordshireMK43 9EJUnited Kingdom01234 762213B561630/11/20166699 miles

Service Completed16000 miles / 12 months serviceOther Related ItemsRenewal of Oil and Oil FilterRenewal of Brake FluidRenewal of Pollen FilterRenewal of Engine Air FilterRenewal of Alarm Handset BatteriesAir Conditioning Service

Then This

Inchcape Land Rover, Guildford1 LadymeadGuildfordSurreyGU1 1DTUnited Kingdom54999https://osh.jaguar.com/resources/ima...brand_logo.png18/09/201818197 miles
Service Completed48000 miles / 36 months serviceOther Related Items

jaguny 04-14-2019 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Tel (Post 2055165)
Sounds like a rather interesting car...

@AJB2 Maybe Jaguars' OSH may be able to shed more light on where it's been and from. https://osh.jaguar.com/

Hoping not to see the word Copart in there! ;-)

Is that link to Jaguar's Owner's club only for UK owner's. It does allow selection of USA as location, but it says that online info not supported for my vehicle?

SinF 04-14-2019 08:40 PM

No way Jaguar road-tested for 2 years and not seen slipping clutch issue. I am skeptical that OP somehow got an early MT prototype (that probably never existed) and it was updated with a later dash and so on.

It is typo in a document or hoax or VIN rebadging to hide bad title history.

Unhingd 04-14-2019 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055240)
Hi unhinged. Numbers are 18...let’s see what you find...

Cheers.

andrew.

Based on production sequence number, the car was definitely built during the MY2015 production cycle (March 2014- February2015). The features indicate an MY2016. If the VIN truly belongs to this vehicle, you have a rare pre-production unit that was used for real world testing or produced as a press vehicle. Given the production date, most likely the former. Other than this car, I know of no regular production MTs with a sequence number of anything less than a 27xxx.

AJB2 04-15-2019 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by Unhingd (Post 2055348)
Based on production sequence number, the car was definitely built during the MY2015 production cycle (March 2014- February2015). The features indicate an MY2016. If the VIN truly belongs to this vehicle, you have a rare pre-production unit that was used for real world testing or produced as a press vehicle. Given the production date, most likely the former. Other than this car, I know of no regular production MTs with a sequence number of anything less than a 27xxx.

I can honestly say that the VIN truly does belong to this vehicle. As previously stated, it came from Inchcape Jaguar Guildford with a full 2 years Jaguar approved Warranty. So, what is it I actually have here? Whatever it is, it has certainly landed on its feet as I’m fanatical about my cars & tend never to sell them on. Just to add, I also have the full build Topix sheets as well.

AJB2 04-15-2019 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by SinF (Post 2055322)
No way Jaguar road-tested for 2 years and not seen slipping clutch issue. I am skeptical that OP somehow got an early MT prototype (that probably never existed) and it was updated with a later dash and so on.

It is typo in a document or hoax or VIN rebadging to hide bad title history.

I can honestly say that the VIN truly does belong to this vehicle. As previously stated, it came from Inchcape Jaguar Guildford with a full 2 years Jaguar approved Warranty. So, what is it I actually have here? Whatever it is, it has certainly landed on its feet as I’m fanatical about my cars & tend never to sell them on. Just to add, I also have the full build Topix sheets as well.

AJB2 04-15-2019 01:28 AM

Unhinged...I cannot for the life of me get the car to repeat the “Clutch Slip” I’m now wondering if, due to the danger of the situation I was in when it happened, If it was the rear wheels spinning causing the lack of grip & smell? To be honest, I just needed to get out of the situation fast & didn’t take a lot of notice what was happening...the smell was like hot brakes...

jaguny 04-15-2019 06:07 AM

How many miles on the car when you purchased it?

AJB2 04-15-2019 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by jaguny (Post 2055436)
How many miles on the car when you purchased it?

18,197 Miles

DJS 04-15-2019 07:22 AM

Did you check the label on the drivers door sill that gives manufacture date, etc?

vika01 04-15-2019 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by scm (Post 2054795)
Sure looks like a 2014 to me.

first of all. If it’s a manual it’s a 2016-2017. Second of all the start button is black and the shifting paddles are silver. Therefore it’s 100000% a 2016 model year.

Unhingd 04-15-2019 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055386)
Unhinged...I cannot for the life of me get the car to repeat the “Clutch Slip” I’m now wondering if, due to the danger of the situation I was in when it happened, If it was the rear wheels spinning causing the lack of grip & smell? To be honest, I just needed to get out of the situation fast & didn’t take a lot of notice what was happening...the smell was like hot brakes...

Here's the test:
Do a full throttle zero-60 run with a fast 1st to 2nd shift. If you have the dreaded 1st generation clutch, the clutch will not fully engage in 2nd gear and will just initiate a meltdown until you let off on the throttle. Then it will catch and act like a clutch in good condition. Gentle drivers will never experience this slippage.

Your description of the situation certainly indicates you have this issue.

SinF 04-15-2019 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055380)
I can honestly say that the VIN truly does belong to this vehicle.

Get a different shop compare VIN numbers and make sure they match. There is one stamped on the engine block, one on dash and there are couple other hard-to-get to places. If they all match, then it is what it is. Document this.



Originally Posted by AJB2 (Post 2055380)
So, what is it I actually have here?

A unicorn, one of a kind car that is probably collectable, or you are a victim of a scam.

Unhingd 04-15-2019 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by vika01 (Post 2055473)
first of all. If it’s a manual it’s a 2016-2017. Second of all the start button is black and the shifting paddles are silver. Therefore it’s 100000% a 2016 model year.

Yes, it is a model year 2016, but apparently built in 2014 as a pre-production-cycle road tester.

scm 04-15-2019 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by vika01 (Post 2055473)
first of all. If it’s a manual it’s a 2016-2017. Second of all the start button is black and the shifting paddles are silver. Therefore it’s 100000% a 2016 model year.

I'm not disputing the MY, see my previous post for the explanation of the registration.

SinF 04-15-2019 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Unhingd (Post 2055476)
Yes, it is a model year 2016, but apparently built in 2014 as a pre-production-cycle road tester.

If that is the case, we know it was driven very gently all the time and never seen track use.


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