Serious discussions should be made at Jaguar. Market opportunities were just made because the Z06 prices were just released. Prices start at 106 and move up quickly if you want anything with any luxury at all. MSRP for medium optioned cars will be in the 150's.

Lots of buyers on Corvette Forum are balking at the price. If they are going to pay an exotic price....they don't want a Chevy.

Getting some drivers butts into seats would be a very wise thing for Jag.....They could extend out the timeline for production. Costs are already spent on the R&D, so the costs of the car should not go up that much.

It is a great opportunity by Chevy abandoning the marketplace and getting greedy.

 

Here is what "I" would do -

1. Go back to the original headlights.
2. Put in the CX16 hybrid option - 42mpg in a 400hp car matters a lot these days. That would be a big news thing....if real of course. And just do the V6 with a 400hp tune plus the battery/motor (the zf8 can take it as is...so minimal issues).
3. Put out 2 piece rotors from the factory for the brakes - 380 in the front and the 326 and 37x in the rear....to save weight.
4. Put out some lighter forged wheels that are affordable (700 each lets say) in 20" - forged.
5. Add oil temp and oil pressure gauges to all cars.
6. Consider a shooting brake option....more storage space would be cool.


done

 

They don’t have contract with Ford in England for engine anymore. It would be kinda weird to stick the BMW 4.0 from BMW’s current cars in an F-Type. At least the supercharged 5.0 was exclusive to JLR products.

 

AIUI, Jaguar is building the V8s in the new engine plant in the Midlands in England.

 

It’s a Ford product and Jag has signed with BMW. That’s why the new Range Rover etc can’t use it- even in the SV models.

 

For the ten millionth time, the AJ133 is NOT a Ford product and never has been, and has never been used in anything other than JLR products let alone Fords!
It was designed and engineered by JLR in 2008 shortly before Ford sold JLR to Tata Motors, and introduced in the 2009 XF, XJ and XK and RR.
It has absolutely nothing in common with the Ford Coyote V8 although it does contain a few peripheral parts stamped FoMoCo.
It was built on a special production line at the Ford Bridgend engine plant under a contract with Ford. That contract expired in 2020 and since then it has been built in the JLR engine plant at Wolverhampton.
The AJ126 V6 is derived from the V8, it was introduced in 2012 as the replacement for the NA version of the V8 which was then discontinued, and it was/is built on the same lines as the V8.

 

F-types, similar to e-types, appeal to a very small segment of the enthusiast population for lots of reasons, particularly in terms of exclusivity. No matter how nice 911's become [and they are damn nice if you haven't checked one out in a while], unless you can afford something really special, they have lost their appeal to many because of their increasing numbers. In my area, they're a dime a dozen, yet there are only a couple of f-types.

USD150K for a Corvette is a lot of money for a style that will simply not stand the test of time. It's probably going to seem like a Ferrari TR or a Lambo Countash twenty years hence. Way too radical. Our cars were instant classics due to their timeless lines. The fewer the better.

 

I agree. I have 2 of these engines. As of 2022, if you want to replace parts of the engine you will see a stamp: FoMo plus a number. That stands for FORD Motor Company. I’m certain Ford still owns the rights to that engine which means Ford receive royalties/money for each engine. For example, the metal container that has the oil filter is stamped FoMo and no other Ford engine has a top accessible oil filter so they are not sharing parts

 

Jaguar took over production a year or two ago:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/b...oduction-house

 

Ford has no rights to the AJ133 engine. They built the engine under contract for Jaguar-nothing more.

 

I just can't see Corvette buyers so easily switching to a Jag, as the Corvette has a very strong cult-like following, to a degree that buying anything foreign is viewed as "un-American". Pushed into a corner, I think they'd go with a Ford before heading overseas.

 

This was one big reason I didn't go with a P-car. I'm in SoCal as well and between them and BMWs, they've become very ordinary. I'm not going to track my F-Type, so I could care less about fastest lap time, but style, performance, and uniqueness. Ironically, while I've only seen a few since 2015, I saw two yesterday within 20 minutes.

 

In any event, no one is gonna make the Supercharged 5.0 for JLR vehicles anymore. BMW is the replacement engine builder which is why I bought my 2022 F-Type.

 

I have never been able to find concrete information on whose employees (Ford's or JLR's) built the AJ133 and AJ126 at Bridgend but after a bit of searching it seems it was Ford employees. Put another way, all the workers at the Ford Bridgend engine plant were Ford employees including those on the AJ133/126 production lines.
So even more misleading information to feed the false myth that the AJ133 is a Ford engine.

 

Harley guys claim "all-american", they're not, they know it.
Fender guitar nuts want "made in California", but few are anymore.
I was gifted a wallet from a relative that went to Italy, inside it was scripted "Made in Italy". In English.
I can buy a box of 11 beach chairs that nets to $7 apiece, made in China.
Do I want a Brit or a Yank assembling my car?
My point is, we have images that we create that match our desires. Or fears for that matter.
As an old dirt bike friend said back in the 70's...."Floor it. If it tweaks, it's junk"

 

The is wrong. The v6 and v8 supercharged engines were engineered and designed by JAGUAR, NOT Ford. These engines were not used in any Ford product. But the engines were indeed built under license in the Ford Bridgend engine plant, separate from the Ford engines. So the fact that Ford employees did the actual putting together of the engines does not make them “Ford” engines.
Automotive journalists get a LOT of things wrong….

 

The is wrong. The v6 and v8 supercharged engines were engineered and designed by JAGUAR, NOT Ford. These engines were not used in any Ford product. But the engines were indeed built under license in the Ford Bridgend engine plant, separate for the Ford engines.
Automotive journalist get a LOT of things wrong….

 

You may well be correct, but seeing parts on the engine with the imprinted "Ford" name does muddy the water some. While automakers sometimes do borrow parts, in this case, it makes the confusion more easily understood.

 

Don't kid yourself on this. MSRP (which dealers will undoubtedly try and jack up) for a very well optioned Z06 coupe (3LZ) is $120,245. More options than you get with a F-type (sadly).

THEY WILL SELL EVERY ONE OF THESE AVAILABLE for the next few years, no one is balking at the price for what you are getting.

Remember this is the highest NA flat-plane V8 in existence. Their competitors are $100,000's more expensive....

Get in line if you want to try and order one.

 

I will never be in the market for a new Corvette or F Type. but I think that the loss of a halo sports car for Jaguar is a huge mistake. I think that every buyer of a Jaguar sedan glanced at the E Type, XJS, XK8, XK, and F Type and said to them selves. "My car shares it's DNA with THAT! That made them even more satisfied with their purchase.
The buyer of an Impala wouldn't have cared if there was a Corvette or not. There must be someway to keep the F Type in production, Toyota found a way to build the Supra. It's a point of pride, I can't imagine Jaguar without a sporting car.