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Old 04-06-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The base car does not have an LSD. The major disadvantage to the E-diff on the V8 cars is that it eventually shuts down after it overheats from extended high speed laps. The mechanical LSD will hang in there.
Don't forget the guy on here who reported going through like 4 of them just from driving in snow.
 
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nati
Don't forget the guy on here who reported going through like 4 of them just from driving in snow.
...and he was the only one. Lots of others drive their V8's in the snow without issue (why they'd want to, I have no idea but that's another topic!) I'd suggest that it's not a common problem.

I have heard that the electronic diffs can overheat on the track but my understanding is that it was related to the DCS system.....i.e. run with it off and you don't have a problem


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Old 04-06-2017, 07:45 PM
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not sure where the info in this thread is coming from, but eLSD > mLSD

a properly setup eLSD, like that in my M3, is literally the best of both worlds - it'll remain open off throttle on corner turn in to reduce understeer, then 100% lock in milliseconds once back on throttle for improved traction
 

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Old 04-06-2017, 08:14 PM
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Understeer is not an issue that I ever noticed when tracking my F-type.
 
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Old 04-06-2017, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by domino_z
not sure where the info in this thread is coming from, but eLSD > mLSD

a properly setup eLSD, like that in my M3, is literally the best of both worlds - it'll remain open off throttle on corner turn in to reduce understeer, then 100% lock in milliseconds once back on throttle for improved traction
I'd prefer a Torsen diff over either the eLSD or the friction-plate mLSD units offered by Jag.

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Understeer is not an issue that I ever noticed ...
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:34 PM
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:27 PM
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It's possible to buy the V6S LSD, so fitting it shouldn't be a problem.

Cost/Benefit analysis may be required when compared to just buying the S, since you'll never get your money back...
 
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It may not mean anything in relation to Jaguar owners, but I had an '02 Lincoln LS, with the electronic traction control, and got caught, in my slightly downsloping driveway, in front of 1/2" of ice, and could not move the car the few inches necessary to get out of the driveway. Had to call CAA. Am presently on the hunt for a '96/'97 XJ, as I understand that LSD was standard for them.
 
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
...and he was the only one. Lots of others drive their V8's in the snow without issue (why they'd want to, I have no idea but that's another topic!) I'd suggest that it's not a common problem.

I have heard that the electronic diffs can overheat on the track but my understanding is that it was related to the DCS system.....i.e. run with it off and you don't have a problem


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Because it is fricken amazing and fun!
 
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Because it is fricken amazing and fun!
If you say so; I'll never know as I only drive our GLC43AMG or my 4x4 Dodge ram in the snow and my 500 hp, RWD, aluminum, 2 seat, convertible sports car sits in the garage until spring. ;-)

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Originally Posted by DPelletier
...and my 500 hp, RWD, aluminum, 2 seat, convertible sports car sits in the garage until spring. ;-)
How sad is that?
 
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Not totally on point, but gotta say the electronic LSD made by Toyota for my Tundra sucks flea infested camel Balzz. Recently swapped it out for a mechanical unit and the difference was night and day. Actually get both rear tires to engage when hitting the go pedal. But the fun is short lived, the overly intrusive traction control cuts power within a second. To at least partially disable it, I need to remember to hold the botton down for 3 seconds at startup.

Much prefer to rip all nannies out and practice modulating the go pedal to keep that just perfect balance where both rear tires are on the verge of breaking loose up to about 50 mph.

I feel like there is too much reliance on electronic wizardry these days. Man I sound old typing that....
 
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Originally Posted by Chawumba
Much prefer to rip all nannies out and practice modulating the go pedal to keep that just perfect balance where both rear tires are on the verge of breaking loose up to about 50 mph.

I feel like there is too much reliance on electronic wizardry these days. Man I sound old typing that....
+1. But I AM old.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
How sad is that?
It's a little sad, but I'm not rich and I plan on keeping this car for a good while so I'm pretty satisfied that it is properly stored over the winter rather than subjected to snow, rocks, sand, gravel, ice, etc.

....frankly I've been storing my "good" cars over the winter since 1985 and I wouldn't dream of driving a high hp, RWD car in the winter.....not particularly prudent here

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Originally Posted by Chawumba
Much prefer to rip all nannies out and practice modulating the go pedal to keep that just perfect balance where both rear tires are on the verge of breaking loose up to about 50 mph.

I feel like there is too much reliance on electronic wizardry these days. Man I sound old typing that....
By definition, at least 50% of drivers are below average driving skill. These drivers NEED these aids in everyday driving.

Still, I believe in electronic wizardry. I tracked many classics, and 'steering wheels and pedals' are death traps. I prefer electronic Jesus watching over my shoulder. Just not too much.
 
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
....frankly I've been storing my "good" cars over the winter since 1985 and I wouldn't dream of driving a high hp, RWD car in the winter.....not particularly prudent here
Same here. Just like I wouldn't use my F-type to haul gravel, I don't use it in the winter. Not a right tool for the task.

For winter driving, I use Subaru.
 
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
If you say so; I'll never know as I only drive our GLC43AMG or my 4x4 Dodge ram in the snow and my 500 hp, RWD, aluminum, 2 seat, convertible sports car sits in the garage until spring. ;-)

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You forgot to add... "with heated seats and steering wheel."

Honestly, the F-Type is very well suited for winter driving! I wish we had more snow where I am at so I would have a reason to invest in winter tires. The Miata is the same way - it is an absolute blast to drive a RWD sports car in snow with proper tires!
 
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Originally Posted by approx
You forgot to add... "with heated seats and steering wheel."

Honestly, the F-Type is very well suited for winter driving! I wish we had more snow where I am at so I would have a reason to invest in winter tires. The Miata is the same way - it is an absolute blast to drive a RWD sports car in snow with proper tires!
Maybe an AWD V6 F type coupe would be adequate in mild winter driving but the V8S is about as far away from a good winter driver in our conditions as I can imagine for a modern vehicle. Our 4Matic MB SUV OTOH, does a great job as does my Ram 4x4 truck......I spend many hours up at the ski hill hauling out stuck neighbors with my truck; last one was a Tesla - he had no chance. Obviously conditions vary from place to place but we get lots of snow.....and the maintenance contractors use very coarse gravel as a traction aid so even if the F type didn't suck in the snow, I would never consider it due to the damage it would receive in these conditions.

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Originally Posted by SinF
Same here. Just like I wouldn't use my F-type to haul gravel, I don't use it in the winter. Not a right tool for the task.

For winter driving, I use Subaru.
Understandable, and I have had 2 STI's and an Evo X in the winter. Jag is SO much more fun! I have AWD, so this ONLY applies to the AWD people lol. If I had RWD like in my last 911, it would stay in the garage!
 

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