And an oil pressure gage!

 

Ford is increasing HP by increasing RPM. The C8 Z06 might go the same way. Thats not for me. Increasing boost or increasing displacement will preserve the engine's design life.

If it wasn't for easy tuning options the F-Type's 550 HP would be more behind right now.

It seems the UK and the US are in two different worlds. The UK craves fuel economy and restraint, while the US market wants outrageous muscle and an even more racaus exhaust.

Jaguar needs to decide if the F-Type is a double-priced Civic R rival, or a fire-breathing GT supercar. It can't be both.

 

Lol. +1. So badly needed.

 

Er, UK politicians maybe, but not everyone is a tight-fisted skinflint.

 

And a dipstick!

 

This is on top of what we already have, right? OK, this is what would tickle my fancy...

A lightweight 4 - 4.2 litre v8 without the raspy noise, and with a supercharger that whines away. Rear windows in the coupe that go down so you can hear the exhaust better.

A slushbox auto with a shifter that mimics a manual in shifts rather than tipping backward and forward - ie it can be driven as a clutchless manual (as well as paddles).

Wider stock wheels to fill out the arches, all wheels should be lightweight, 21 inch should be no cost option;

Target sprint time 0 - 100kph maybe just under 4 seconds - 3 point something gets people much more excited than 4 point something (personally I dont really care but a lot of people buy on stats);

Slotted rotors should be standard or no cost option;

Loud mode should be standard, but quiet mode (and quiet start) selectable;

RWD option for V8;

Default for auto stop/start should be off;

HUD (not really needed if the digital speedo is at the top of the instrument cluster, but OK).

Clearsight mirror tech for F Type (though I dont use it in the XE so much).

 

The only thing the f-type needs is a weight loss program.

 

That'd be tops on my list. A 3L V8 that revs to 12,000 would be pretty nice too, although perhaps not ideal for daily driving (or my hearing). Even the Mustang GT Convertible I just rented on vacation had a V8 with a 7500 redline. A V6 should go to at least 8K.

 

4'900 lbs for a all aluminum two seater car is ridiculous.

 

I prefer high torque since torque is the only thing that moves a car.

There are two ways to generate HP. High torque and low RPM where the manufacturer funds HP, and low torque at high RPM where the customer pays for HP through exponentially more frequent maintenance.

HP is linear to torque, HP = Torque x RPM, but engine wear is exponential to RPM. So small, high RPM engines are really about manufacturers cheaping out.

A low torque engine can be smaller and lighter, but it can take a long time to reach redline HP because acceleration is weak. F=MA, so Acceleration=Torque/Weight.

Generally, high RPM, low torque engines are for sustained high speed races where the engine gets replaced between sprints, light super weak 1.6L 250 ft-lb/800HP F1 cars.

High torque, low RPM is best for racing between stop lights and low maintence, long lifecycle solutions.

 

Sorry about the incorrect weight I stated for the f-type. I was thinking of my Cadillac. F-type weighs around 3,750.

 

I didn't say it'd be practical: in fact the opposite. Most of what you say is true. When I said it wouldn't be ideal for daily driving I was understating the case. It would be entertaining in the right circumstances but this whole thread is pipe dreams anyway.

If I were looking at more practical suggestions, I'd go with:

Lighter (at the expense of luxury)
Opposed piston calipers (seriously, they're already in the JLR parts bin)
Stronger clutch (yeah, I won't give up the MT without a fight)

In other words, turn the GT into a Sport. I knowingly bought a GT though, so can't complain too loudly.

 

2014-15 V8 3671 lbs
2019 V6 3691 lbs
2019 V8 3814 lbs

nuf said.

 

V8 F type weighs at least 3850, AWD versions are around 4,000 lbs.....there is a thread here somewhere.

Dave

 

Nope. https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...hassle-161094/

Dave

 

I just looked up that thread. When I spec'd my car I looked up the added weight from AT, the added weight for AWD, and the added weight for the V8. It was considerable. The convertible also adds weight. All those factors need to be taken into account, although not all factors affect every model year.

And yeah, the claimed weights are <cough cough> charitable.

 

I like the V12 idea, although am sure it's never going to happen.

However If we're dreaming then 900Kg (1985 lbs)
7L V12 with 730bhp at 7000tpm and 785 Nm 5500rpm and sounding like this would get my vote

 

Your car doesn’t sound like that? My V6 does.

 

The twin turbo 3.0 in our Maser makes 424hp and 414 ftlbs at 1700. Supposedly Ferrari is working on a 550-600hp version for an upcoming "opening" range model. A V6 still has a way to go. In sport mode our Maser is only slightly slower to 60 than my V6S. Also the new straight sixes from Merc are very hot in the different versions.

 

I hope we never go turbo. My equally expensive turbo cars have been awful driving cars. There is a two second delay from pedal input to a 0 to 1 unmodulatable full bore response. The F-Type is the exact opposite, immediate wheelspin (V8 S) that stays tied to your foot. Then there is the lack of exaust energy. 0-60 time doesn't compute when there is a 2 second delay in any spontaneous real world situation.